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At first I chose "it depends", but after a bit of reflection I changed my vote to craftsmen.
I realized it's not complexity or the ingenuity involved in the work I do on a day to day that makes me labor or craftsmen, it's the little things I do no matter the task. If I'm just doing the minimum work required to complete the task I'm labor, if I'm doing the extra little things to make the code run better, run faster, be more maintainable or be more extensible then I'm a craftsman.
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Agreed...Craftsman/Laborer is reflective of how you work, not what you work on. You don't suddenly start doing shoddy welds because you are not working on a piece for a museum. I think it is the details and standards that make you a craftsman, not the job.
Jack of all trades ~ Master of none.
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Despite my position on a project I just can't sit back and watch others do all the heavy lifting.
In fact, the heavy lifting is usually what's cool to do, not the boring repetitive tasks all projects have.
So, heather as a developer, team leader or project manager, I always have the need to get my hands dirty.
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Cleaning up what comes from a$$holes
I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt
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Mark Nischalke wrote: Cleaning up what comes from a$$holes
Great comment; keep it up - sound's like you're really on a roll !
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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Dude, janitor sounds good.
I feel like the crapper. They just keep dumping more sh*t on me here.
Pete
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The key is in the job title you use; mine is: "Deparmental Sh!t-Job Boy", or DSJB.
I do all the crap jobs nobody else wants to do: I maintain our deparment server and administer our SourceSafe data bases(*). I write and maintain most of our in-house tools, our installers, and most of our engineering documentation. I'm also the "go to" guy for Windows and Visual Studio issues.
Of course, this role is aside from my day job of doing the UI's for our products.
The only sh!t-job I don't do is writing Engineering Change Orders (ECO's) for our releases. I do have some pride.
(*) Yes, I said SourceSafe, and yes, data bases is plural.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Lucifer - Bringer of Light
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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If I am making a BACON butty, I'm a Craftsman.
If I am working with CLstCtrl, I'm a Labourer.
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."
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When I am given free reign on a certain section of the project then I am an Artiste and I must not be disturbed. However, when I wake up from my dream, I realize that I am nothing more than a lowly slob; chained to my cubicle of misery.
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Just along for the ride.
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What's really ironic is that the french word for prostitute is "artiste".
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: What's really ironic is that the french word for prostitute is "artiste".
Even better.
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In the final year at university a mathematician told me engineers were scientists who prostitute their knowledge. He saw no irony in his becoming an accountant in the City after he graduated.
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DogsBody.
Scapegoat.
Excess Baggage carrier.
Miracle Worker.
IT support worker.
Out of Hours support for employees home 'computer-related' problems (How can I uninstall Norton? etc)
Please add more below.
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Wizard
"You-IT-Guy-Eh"
(yes|no|maybe)*
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Crapper - where all the sh*t gets dumped.
Pete
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Labourer: One who engages in work that requires bodily strength
Craftsman: One who engages in skilled work
I don't know who is voting for option a, but event the worst keyboards can't be that heavy to type.
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Hard to mind, when all the craft is done for a monkey's hand.
Hard to heart, when a job for Da Vinci is treated as labour!
So, a labour or craftsman, depends on the person who gives me the job...
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Just that something can be done, doesn't mean it should be done. Respect developers and their efforts!
Jk
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If I'm using a CListCtrl I tend to feel more like bacon, but in case I'm using Consolas font... then I'm like a double bacon...
PS: now everybody here can relax... all the important stuff have been said...
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Too fast girl, too fast!
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H
OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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Actually it is purely depends on project and estimated time to complete the project.
"Every Little Smile can touch Somebody's Heart...
May we find Hundreds of Reasons to Smile Everyday... and
May WE be the Reason for someone else to smile always!" (ICAN)
"Your thoughts are the architects of your destiny."
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I think it depends more on the developer: for instance, I never meet deadlines.
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler.
-- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong.
-- Iain Clarke
[My articles]
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Or may be your IRA (Immediate reporting authority). I always have a pressure to complete the task in time.
"Every Little Smile can touch Somebody's Heart...
May we find Hundreds of Reasons to Smile Everyday... and
May WE be the Reason for someone else to smile always!" (ICAN)
"Your thoughts are the architects of your destiny."
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you beat me. Plus, project play key role.
// ♫ 99 little bugs in the code,
// 99 bugs in the code
// We fix a bug, compile it again
// 101 little bugs in the code ♫
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Actually it's quite simple:
A Craftsman is someone that respects its trade, producing high quality merchandise, specially designed for one customer(not mass-produced).
A labourer has to finish his quota of work for the day in one workday.Little to none responsibility (or care) to quality. Only quantity matters."GET THINGS DONE".
A Craftsman cares more about its honor and prestige rather than getting something done in an limited amount of time.Of course, it's not a very good idea to stall a client indefinitely, but it is always better to delay something rather than make it on time but with poor quality.The delay is soon forgotten by the client, but the quality isn't, because the client uses what you have built every day.
Think of the difference between an shoe made in a small shop by a craftsmen especially for you, that usually lasts a lifetime, and an chinese sneaker that unglues after few weeks or less.
It is the "merit" of the industrial "revolution" that it literally wiped out all craftsmen.
IT DOES NOT DEPENDS on the JOB , IT DEPENDS ON THE PERSON, and its self-respect.
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