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There are many web tutorials however, they teach the exact same thing. I am looking for something that would teach you how to make a website and use Javascript that makes sense. Then also uses maybe PHP or something to make it more secured. Like most of the time I learn about arrays and I never see arrays used on web sites i look a the code from. So is there a real site that can give me a true tutorial that would use everything they are teaching while they are teaching you to use it. Like if we don't use alert() anymore and console so is there a better tutorial out there that can show us newbies a better way to do this?

What I have tried:

Watching tutorial and reading articles
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[no name] 13-Feb-16 9:50am    
Same I'm looking too / searching for. This for a longer time now. My conclusion at the moment: Web Dev is a mess :(

There is no such thing.

Nothing is going to go over every little detail, like you want, in a complete end-to-end tutorial making the most secure website and giving reasons for every single detail. That would take thousands upon thousands of pages in an entire series of books. That just doesn't exist.

It takes lots and lots of research and time on your part to learn every corner that YOU want to learn. This process never stops! I've been writing code for nearly 40 years now and there's always stuff to learn.
 
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Sergey Alexandrovich Kryukov 13-Feb-16 11:13am    
Sure, a 5. Perhaps I tried to explain the same things in detail, Solution 2. But I also explained one particular point: why explaining "how to make sense" may make little sense. :-)
—SA
Patrice T 13-Feb-16 11:59am    
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Some people use all kinds of tutorials and learn, other seek excuses for not learning.

And this is a very convenient excuse: all the tutorials "teach exact same thing". They are not teaching how to make Web site which makes sense. There is no a "real site". So, first step is to find a real site: ask strangers, take a long travel. It should do the miracle and be real. As El Dorado. Atlantis. Avalon. Arcadia. Shambhala. Dog's Door.

And the Web seeker is browsing and browsing and ask questions, but not developing Web sites. And this person don't understand that those who already make great sites today did not study even the tutorials which "tech exact same things". That did not have event them. They read much less comprehensive tutorial, and even more they learned documentations, and articles devoted to the state of affairs of the yet-to-be established standards, and much less those giving ready-to-use recipes. And yet those people know how to produce products which makes sense. You can understand it, too. Apparently, the recipe is: a lot of work; but those tutorials which "tech exact same things".

No, don't get me wrong: your question is useful. It can get some writes the idea: to write yet another tutorial in a different style, really explaining how to "make sense". So, thank you for your contribution.

At the same time, I can try to explain why people may not choose to write such thing. This is simple: priority. The authors don't want to waste tome on how to "make sense" Here is the idea: give a man a tool, and this man will use it the way it makes sense. For this person, by the way, not necessarily for another one. If you teach how to use the tool for one "sample" purpose which makes sense, you teach only this purpose, something ad hoc, not general. Most importantly, you would distract the reader from learning really important thing. In other words, the tutorial is oriented to the people who most likely can really use them for their benefit; and such people can usually figure out "how to make sense", and the spacious samples of whole sites can only distract them; they may think that this is a tutorial for a kindergarten and pick something else; and this something else is something which "tech exact same things".

Anyway, any work can be improved. Writing tutorials, too. Thank you.

—SA
 
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Patrice T 13-Feb-16 12:00pm    
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Sergey Alexandrovich Kryukov 13-Feb-16 13:55pm    
Thank you very much.
—SA
Here is a good tutorial site for html and related sujects: W3Schools Online Web Tutorials[^] where you will learn pieces of the languages.

For site design, the main thing is to be creative, and this is only in your head, it can't be learned.
When you know what you want for the site, you use your programming technique to organize things and only after, you apply it with the web languages and frameworks.
 
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