Web Development

3-Dec-04 7:56

aside from a site using META tags to specify keywords that search bots can use, HOW ELSE can a search engine be directed to one's site when someone "Googles" a topic?

I'm curious as to how my site could be identified when somebody looks for something that may or may not be related to my site's content. What brought visitors to my site?

Any ideas on my question?
Thanks,
Johnny

DavidNohejl3-Dec-04 8:17

3-Dec-04 8:17

hi Johnny,

Anonymous wrote:
What brought visitors to my site?

Simply said, content and reputation of your site brings visitors.
Content - that's obvious, I think e.g. google indexes every word on your site, not only keywords. So more accurate your content is, the bigger is chance that search will show to user what he's looking for.

reputation - the more sites links to your site, the higher position in google's results you have.

see http://www.google.com/webmasters/4.html[^]

best regards,
David 'DNH' Nohejl

Never forget: "Stay kul and happy" (I.A.)

Anonymous3-Dec-04 8:55

3-Dec-04 8:55

>How was my site discovered?

The reason I ask is security, for example.

Say I posted something that I didn't want to go out and didn't catch it for say 2 months. Aside from the obvious that I could look at on my page (META tags and like you said individual words on the page) are there other considerations that could have directed UNWANTED traffic to my site

Domain name? IPs? Corporate affiliation? Etc....

Thanks again.
Johnny

DavidNohejl3-Dec-04 10:20

3-Dec-04 10:20

hi Johnny,

Anonymous wrote:
>How was my site discovered?

you didn't write this before! Confused | :confused:

I don't understand to your question than.

Do you want to know how ban search bots? Or how to delete your site from google's database? Or what? Oh wait.. you want to know ways how people can find your page! yes? D'Oh! | :doh:

Never forget: "Stay kul and happy" (I.A.)

Anonymous3-Dec-04 10:53

3-Dec-04 10:53

Yes, I want to know how people can find a page.

Example, say I hosted a page on a university (educational instution) server in the USA. If I had:

1) META tags that keywords are "MATH SECRETS" and "ALGORITHMS".
2) The content, "How to develop mathematical algorithms"

Could a search (BOT, person initiated) identify my page by:

a.) IP   (whatever.edu)
b.) location  (USA)
c.) META keywords  ("SECRET" and "ALGORITHMS" as words by themselves)
d.) the content   (the individual words by themselves too)

e.) >> ANYTHING ELSE??

Thanks again for this info - curious.
Johnny

DavidNohejl3-Dec-04 11:11

3-Dec-04 11:11

Anonymous wrote:
say I hosted a page on a university (educational instution) server

I am not that stupid. I know what "university" is. I study at one of them Wink | ;)

Anonymous wrote:
e.) >> ANYTHING ELSE??

Only one thing came to my mind ... personal information about domain owner (WHOIS service), bt it doesn't identify author of the page.

So answer is.. AFAIK, nothing else. Anyway, I don't know much about security issues and about networks. If I knew what your original post was about, I wouldn't answer it Blush | :O

David

Never forget: "Stay kul and happy" (I.A.)

raouls5-Dec-04 20:38

raouls

5-Dec-04 20:38

you can also use the "robots.txt" file in the root of your domain. in this file you can specify whether or not a search engine's crawler (like googlebot, for instance) may crawl your site, even to "you may not search <this> page" point.

that's the only thing i can think of.

--
Raoul Snyman
Saturn Laboratories
e-mail: raoul.snyman@saturnlaboratories.co.za
web: http://www.saturnlaboratories.co.za/
linux user: #333298

DavidNohejl5-Dec-04 22:13

5-Dec-04 22:13

sure. That's what I meant by question "do you want to ban searchbots"? It applies only to well-behaved bots, however. Better way can be check user agent's name after request, and send the right response (e.g. "get out of there", or act this is 404). And from last of Johnny's posts, I thought he wants to know what information bots can get once they reach his site. Bt I don't understant to his goal, to be honest.

David

Never forget: "Stay kul and happy" (I.A.)

Dialog Box

v_aman3-Dec-04 1:10

v_aman

3-Dec-04 1:10

How can i capture save dialgog box events like save, cancel, open etc

Re: Dialog Box

perlmunger3-Dec-04 5:20

perlmunger

3-Dec-04 5:20

If you are talking about an ASP .NET file control, the answer is that you can't. The dialog is opened on the client side and therefore no events are fired on the server until the form containing the file control is posted back to the server--at which point the dialog is used and gone.

You could probably write an activex control and embed that in the page, but activex can be a real security risk and it would only work (reliably) with Internet Exploder.

Best Regards.

-Matt

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The 3 great virtues of a programmer:
Laziness, Impatience, and Hubris.
--Larry Wall

Re: Dialog Box

alex.barylski4-Dec-04 1:55

What are meta pointers and meta classes?

4-Dec-04 1:55

Sure can!!!

Assuming 2 conditions:

1) I think it only works under IE
2) You must prompt the user to save the document. If they travel through the menu in IE and click 'Save As' this doesn't work.

<button onclick="javascript: document.execCommand('SaveAs','1','Default.htm');">Click to save</Button>

Where SaveAs is the command and Default.htm is the suggested name you want users to use when saving your page on their HDD.

Cheers Smile | :)

It's frustrating being a genius and living the life of a moron!!!

rgoyal2-Dec-04 23:48

rgoyal

2-Dec-04 23:48

Thanks in advance.

Ranjan

Re: What are meta pointers and meta classes?

alex.barylski4-Dec-04 2:14

After logging out if I login again,can I get the same session?

4-Dec-04 2:14

I'm not sure exactly what the meaning of meta is, but it's to best understanding that META usually means something that doesn't really exist. Which makes defining it even harder. How do you define something that doesn't exist.

META when used in programming...for instance while reading an article on parsing and EBNF grammars, stated that EBNF is a META language. EBNF, in this case, is a language which dictates the exact syntax of another language.

META tags in HTML (AFAIK) are keywords but...not really keywords...keywords should come from the content of a site's document.

META classes, going on what i've learned through osmosis about what META means and is...and listening to my sister ramble about the meanings of life (I say it's pointless then you die) and the meta physical aspect of things...like if you really focus and really want to...you can walk through that wall (I say not a f*ckin chance, you try it, running full friggen speed too and when you, as in she, my sister says OUCH!!! I'll say I told you so).

Anyways...back to META and it's meaning...what i've gather over the years and through context when i've seen it's use in an programming article or conversation, is that META is kind of a paradox.

So to address your question of META classes...

My best guess, would be an UML diagram. It's generic as far as typical class layout or syntax is concerned and yet it symbolizes just that...a class...not an object, but rather a blueprint for any object. A UML diagram is easily converted into any "REAL" class using the syntax of any given language and yet is easily understood by any reader familiar with UML and OOD principles. Doesn't matter whether they are CPP or Perl or PHP or JScript or whatever.

Thats my best guess...

As for pointers...well a pointer when you speak technically is a very specific thing. It's a variable which "Points" at another variable. So a META pointer...an imaginary pointer for the sake of connecting two object diagrams, etc...

Cheers Smile | :)

It's frustrating being a genius and living the life of a moron!!!

rgoyal2-Dec-04 21:37

rgoyal

2-Dec-04 21:37

Thanks in advance.

Ranjan

Re: After logging out if I login again,can I get the same session?

alex.barylski4-Dec-04 2:20

Re: After logging out if I login again,can I get the same session?

4-Dec-04 2:20

Depends how the system is implemented I guess...

I don't see why a system would have to technically remove a session ID...it's done more for social/security reasons I think. If it last forever, woudl it still be called a session???

If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, does it still make a noise?

When a ball hits a wall and bounces in the opposite direction, is the ball hitting the wall...or is the wall hitting the ball???

Be a little more indepth next time...or i'll be a smart ass...not that I can help it...I have PI calculated to like 1000 sigfig's tattooed on my colon and intestines evertually leading to my butt cheeks...so for real...think about it!!!

Cheers Smile | :)

It's frustrating being a genius and living the life of a moron!!!

Bassam Abdul-Baki6-Dec-04 2:32

Bassam Abdul-Baki

6-Dec-04 2:32

Considering how long the human intestine is, I'm assuming you're using very large fonts for PI. Big Grin | :-D

"For that one fraction of a second, you were open to options you would never have considered. That is the exploration that awaits you. Not mapping stars and studying nebula, but charting the unknown possibilities of existence." - Q (Star Trek: The Next Generation) ^ Blog

Newbie

shiraztk2-Dec-04 20:03

shiraztk

2-Dec-04 20:03

Hi
I want to develop a web site. Smile | :)

I got some space from batcave.com. I have few edit boxes on the from and a submit button. I want the values inside the edit boxes to be saved to the database ( provided by batcave.com) when submit button is clicked.
Please, could anyone tell me how to do this.?

Regards

The Best Relligion is Science.
Once you understand it, you will know God.

Re: Newbie

Sven Cipido3-Dec-04 3:34

Sven Cipido

3-Dec-04 3:34

Hi,

These are the steps :
- Open connection to your DB
- Create your insert/Update/Delete SQL statement
- Run the SQL statement
- Close your Connection

Example :
Const C_CONNECTSTRING = "Provider=OraOLEDB.oracle;Password=xxxxxx;User ID=xxxxxx;Data Source=xxxxx"
Set Get_Connection = Server.CreateObject ("ADODB.Connection")

Get_Connection.Open (C_CONNECTSTRING)
Set rsSave = Server.CreateObject("ADODB.Recordset")
SQL = "INSERT INTO table(field1,field2,field3) "
SQL = SQL & "VALUES ("& field1value &",'" & field2value & "','" & field3value & "')"
conADO.Execute SQL

Be aware : For opening the connection check your hoster. Also most hosters have example code on how to do certain actions. I couldn't check it, because batcave.com sends me to the website of Warner Bros.

SCRIPT embedded in TABLE

alex.barylski2-Dec-04 17:48

How to print in horizontal

2-Dec-04 17:48

Edit Nevermind I got it fixed...turned out it was a object reference ending in a period instead of semi-colon... Smile | :)

I have a SCRIPT tag with some fancy nancy JScript code embedded within a TABLE's TD tag.

Everything works fine, no problems or bugs AFAIK and everything is dandy.

However when I refresh the page I see for the blick of a second an JScript error icon in the bottom left of the browser window...

Then everything is back to normal and no error was detected...so I can't even click on the icon to see what might have gone wrong.

When I take the SCRIPT tag out of the TABLE's TD tag everything is fine...no flashing error icons or nothing...

So my question is this:

Does it stipulate anywhere that SCRIPT tags be defined only in the HEAD section of an HTML page or does it matter according to standards....?

It works equally well on IE and Firefox, but that blick of an error worries me...??

What you think...?

Cheers Smile | :)

I wonder if there are any animals that actually have to think in order to breathe? It would really suck to be them!!!

print template

Ryan Overholt2-Dec-04 12:10

Ryan Overholt

2-Dec-04 12:10

I am working on a print template and am baffled by the scripting that is going on. All i simply want to do is change the margins based on if i am on an odd page or an even page.

function CPrintDoc_AddPage()
{
var newHTM = "";
if (HeadFoot.page % 2 == 1){
//insert big header here
//thus need big margin
}
else{
//smaller header so I
//need smaller margin otherwise i'm wasting lots of space
}
...
}

for some reason i can not figure out how to change the margin now.
thanks.

Ryan Overholt
First Time Poster

Perl and MS-IAS

JKroschel2-Dec-04 11:39

JKroschel

2-Dec-04 11:39

I am currently using Authen::Radius to authenticate users off of a linux server with something similar to the following perl script:

$login='mylogin';
$pass='mypass';

use Authen::Radius;
$r = new Authen::Radius(Host => 'myhostname', Secret => 'mysecret');
$response=$r->check_pwd($login, $pass);

if ($response eq "1"){
#successful
}else{
#unsuccessful
}

It is working very well on the linux side. I am now trying to authenticate off of Microsoft’s Internet Authentication Service (IAS). When I try it on the MS side, the connection is made (it is shown in the IAS log), but no response is sent back to the client. Using a windows-based test client, we have found that a response is generated if Radius uses MS-CHAP.
My question is, how do I get my script above to negotiate IAS with MS-CHAP?

Re: Perl and MS-IAS

perlmunger2-Dec-04 16:56

perlmunger

2-Dec-04 16:56

I'm a perl programmer myself, but I don't know anything about Authen::Radius. I've never used it. I think you would be much better off if you posted your question to the Perl Monks site.

Best Regards.

-Matt

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The 3 great virtues of a programmer:
Laziness, Impatience, and Hubris.
--Larry Wall

Anonymous2-Dec-04 5:26