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Gary R. Wheeler16-Jan-24 13:33
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Maximilien wrote:
Every time I think about anything related to installers, something will break.
Installers shouldn't be any less robust than your application code. This is a hard lesson we learned after using several different installer tools: InstallShield, Wise, and more than one MSI package. We now use Inno Setup exclusively. While it is somewhat less capable than the other tools, it is predictable.
Maximilien wrote:
it works on my machine, but not on my colleague machine
Our product runs on an industrial PC for which we create the system image. A common test for us is to re-image a machine and then install the product application to ensure all dependencies are installed properly. In a more general-purpose environment it's harder to manage dependencies. You have to contend with variable end-user environments plus a wider variety of Windows versions. The user may have newer versions of something installed that you depend on. It takes a lot of tedious testing to make sure all of the use-cases are covered.
Maximilien wrote:
I HATE THIS!
Part of my role as the DSJB (Departmental Sh!t-Job Boy) is to do our installers. Before I took them over they were sloppy and unreliable. No one person took care of them. They exhibited the problems you cited and more. Routinely they came with instructions that had to be performed manually to get the application to work. Many bug reports for the products were due to installation failures.

You're not going to like this, but treating the installer like a first-level part of the product fixes a lot of issues.
Software Zen: delete this;

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