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You live in the US, drive on sidewalks on a regular basis, and haven't been stopped by the police, fined and/or lost your license? Photos or it didn't happen!
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote: You live in the US, drive on sidewalks on a regular basis, and haven't been stopped by the police, fined and/or lost your license? Photos or it didn't happen!
You're making quite a few assumptions in your post.
It seems as though conjuring up assumptions is an
ongoing theme in this thread.
I'm not directing my post toward you, Daniel.
You asked a reasonable question. I'm referring to
the nasty people who believe they have a right to
jump to conclusions, based on information that a
single question provides them. Nothing more.
I state that I drive on sidewalks. I don't state
the context, the facts, or any other information
on which to support why I mention this, or what
meanings it may have.
As a result of posting my statement, dozens of people
who believe they have the right to judge me, conclude
who I am as a person. Based on their irrational assumptions,
they somehow get the impression that they're entitled
to be the morally superior warriors of forum justice.
They fabricate a hypothetical statement to cast me as
the villain, and that's where it begins. Next, they
pursue justice by attacking the evil villain. What
I don't understand is that they don't use virtue
to condemn this evil-doer. They spew hatred at this
product of their imagination. How can a person be
the moral authority, if they go about pursuing
internet forum justice by using hate? Isn't that odd?
These people are looking for someone to harass, insult,
condemn, and provoke. Hiding behind a virtuous facade
provides them with what they think is justification to
go about their reprehensible behavior. Who are these people
fooling?
Why doesn't this kind of thing happen to me in public?
Cowardice? No, they can't possibly be cowards. Hiding
behind a screen, using anonymity, they exercise their
mighty powers of good over evil.
Once they leave their home, their power instantly disappears.
These brave social warriors don't behave this way in public.
They're too scared. Even on the internet, they must gang up on
the unrighteous evildoer. Dozens of other sinless
warriors pile on and mob mentality ensues. See,
it's easy to defer culpability when every other
person is involved in the hate fest.
I wish they would just leave their home and try this in public
to the face of a human being whom they don't have the
courage to make eye contact with. I know it,
they know it, and others know it.
Absolute cowardice without a keyboard and
this is how they deal with their well-founded
lack of self-worth. If any cowards out there would
like to prove me wrong, please record a video so
everyone can watch you urinate your pants.
Am I right? Yes, I am right. The cowards know
exactly who they are. Good thing there are no
cowards in this forum. I'm going to have to
search elsewhere for these barbaric animals.
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Ah okay, so you are a troll.
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I never tried to buy stuff online using digital coins.
I downloaded the app Trust from app store and start to play around with it.
any experience to share?
diligent hands rule....
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Just use a credit or debit card. Unless you are trying to obfuscate illegal purchases. But since those 'coins' can most definitely be traced, that is an ill-founded attempt.
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these vendors also take credit cards, but when I transacted through my credit card, it failed.
diligent hands rule....
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just send me the money and I'll make it work. 
(lol jk)
CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair
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Have heard it's risky to give credit card details to digital currency sites. No guarantee that it'll not be misused. There are many cases of cyber fraud, we hear daily.
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Amarnath S wrote: Have heard it's risky to give credit card details to digital currency sites. No guarantee that it'll not be misused. There are many cases of cyber fraud, we hear daily.
Well that's the case with any web site, not just those that deal specifically in digital currency.
Amazon has my CC details, and as much as I hate to feed the beast, I'd still rather buy through them than to give my CC details to 100 smaller sites who don't all have Amazon's resources to put together a system that can do online transactions securely.
I've never dealt with bitcoins and such, and I'll keep it that way for as long as I can.
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dandy72 wrote: Amazon has my CC details, and as much as I hate to feed the beast
Amazon might be hacked but I consider the chance of them just deciding one day to start charging all the cards to the max, and then withdrawing funds and moving it offshore to be very small.
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Yeah, Amazon is infinitely less likely to do that than any small mom-and-pop shop on the internet, that was my point.
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I think the real answer should probably be disposable one-use card numbers.
Several banks have them.
What it amounts to is the same as a keyfob for 2FA and like there, you can come by the data you need several ways (online, phone app, etc).
But I also have prime and for much the same reasons.
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Amarnath S wrote: Have heard it's risky to give credit card details to digital currency sites
LOL!
That right there sums up the entire eCurrency marketplace.
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If they can't transact credit card info correctly, you'd trust them with 'coin'?
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I think it is also possible that the credit card company does not trust them (black list) and blocks transaction.
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Probably. That's what happens when you are untrustable.
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Ding ding ding...
This is the experience you will have trying to elicitly play that devil's game, poker.
Or at it has been at lots of points over the past 15 years.
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I like to take some risk since it is a small amount of money...
diligent hands rule....
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My credit card company called me to ask about charges showing on my card.
It was for doordash. I do not use any of those delivery services.
They called because who ever was attempted something like over 100 charges in a short period of time. All presumably small.
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David O'Neil wrote: But since those 'coins' can most definitely be traced
Can they? Last I heard, the best you can still do is associate a transaction with the wallets that were on both ends of it, but not who the respective owners are.
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The article makes a good point about a physical address still being needed to deliver goods, but suppose you're just transferring money (and that's all you use the wallet for).
I'm not familiar with the process, but what's to keep one from submitting completely fake information when creating the wallet? It seems to me like every link that was ever made can still be tracked to some "external" thing someone made at some point, and not necessarily an inherent flaw in the system. Not that I believe the system is flawless. Merely curious.
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Well I'm not able to answer your question because my knowhow about that is too low.
But perhaps they make some kind of identity check when a person is creating the wallet.
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I went over a few more articles on the topic, and it very much sounds like, for all practical purposes, there's no way to get a wallet created without handing over some ID of some sort - countries have ensured those business entities cannot operate within their border without it.
I've concluded the system has been compromised, no way around it. So virtual currency has lost its only real benefit. This has done nothing to help convince me I should get into it, even with any sort of promise to make any amount of money out of it...it remains a dead end to me. 
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