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Well, that was tongue in cheek. Point is that I don't make beer to save money. Don't really keep track of cost although many of the recipes are gifts from children/grandchildren. Besides, the alcohol content is high enough to remove worries.
>64
There is never enough time to do it right, but there is enough time to do it over.
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I wouldn't be surprised if a first-time home brewer who want to do everything right, getting all the right equipment in place for his first brew, would end up with that price per bottle.
For his next brew, the price would drop to not much above half of that. For his third brew, probably below $10 a bottle. For his 50th, only slightly above the price of the consumable raw materials. Depending on how he obtains them, the quality, and how much processed they are (grain? syrup?) I wouldn't be surprised if he gets down to $1-2 a bottle.
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True.
Basic 1 gallon beer making kit, including ingredients, jug, tubing, etc, is about $50. Makes 9-10 bottles (12 oz) depending on spillage. After that, the "recipes" ran about $16. This from first outfit I purchased from. The original kit was a present so, "free".
The last 18 gallons were from an outfit in Canada, each recipe makes 23 liters. I make 1 gallon at a time, so conversions are required. I brew like I programed: "Oh, about this much". The last batch usually comes up short. The yeast is a problem so I play government: I throw money at it, buying individual 1 gallon mix packets. SWMBO lays an eyeball on the hops and divides them into 6 portions (23 liters is "about" 6 gallons, 6.07). I like this outfit because the wort comes in a liquid which avoids the boiling process. It is the consistency of molasses. I use purified water, from reverse osmosis process ($1.20 a gallon). Please don't tell me they fill the jugs from the men's room.
So far, I have not purchased many recipes, mostly presents from relatives to keep me from bothering them. I have purchased bottles, caps, Capper, and hydrometer. So, my cost per bottle (so far) is actually negligible.
My beer runs about 6% alcohol and a gallon lasts a month or so depending on friends and relatives to help with consumption. I am not much of a "drinker" and the wife doesn't like beer (hooray). I have one friend who comes over about once a week and we have 1 beer, sitting on my patio, solving most of the world's problems. We are veterans and regale each other with war stories.
Difference between war stories and fairy tales:
Fairy tale: "once upon a time..."
War Story: "this ain't no stuff"...
>64
There is never enough time to do it right, but there is enough time to do it over.
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theoldfool wrote: Chemistry. I turn water, grain, yeast, sugar and hops into beer.
Chemistry?  I'm scared of chemistry! I'll just put it like this: I graduated high school with no missing fingers, somehow.
When I saw the word "beer" that's when I knew that I had to upvote your post. 
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It's been pretty much flat out work for me for the last 18 months - which is why I've not been on CP very often. But my contract is up and I'm planning on chilling for a few weeks.
So side projects have taken a back seat, but when I have the time, and energy, I can usually find some DIY stuff to keep me busy. But my "guilty pleasure" is US politics. Yeah, I know politics is a taboo subject on here - so I'll try to stay non-partisan. First of all, I should declare: I'm not an American and I don't live in the US - so I have no vested interest. But, ever since a reality TV show host got made President, I've been "rubber-knecking" like someone who can't take their eyes of a nasty accident!  There's plenty wrong with politics here in the UK, but our friends across the pond, take it to a whole new level. 
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I like to make tools and utilities to automate manual tasks.
That means spending a month creating a tool that can do a manual job that takes 2 minutes once a month. 
I hate command line stuff, so I build UIs around those to be able to use my favourite rodent.
And I get really annoyed by UIs that are sloppy. (outlining slightly off by 1 pixel  )
So I try to build them again, but better.....
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Quote: I hate command line stuff
Easy, peasy. I have a macro pad. Use it for VM passwords, most of the stuff I input to command line (Linux). About $50.
>64
There is never enough time to do it right, but there is enough time to do it over.
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I used to do some coding on personal projects, but lost interest in messing with any significant coding outside of work.
Currently my main hobby is winemaking -- I have nearly 100 gallons in production, which will be bottled between May and November of next year. The fall grapes arrive in late September and October, so the cycle will start again.
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Organizing family photos. Scanned over 11,000 photos since June of this year. Many front and back. Wrote a program to join the two sides into a single image. Uploaded all to GCP this weekend for its OCR and have JSON files with text. Working this week on a program to parse and organize the text to create an index of who is in the photos. Then putting on USB sticks and delivering to family in 6 days.....
Then I can relax next year
Hogan
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1. An Android lottery winning prediction program, since I noticed the numbers are not entirely random.
2. A human language learning app, transforming existing text into a modulated learning sequence of words and phrases.
3. A little Teddy Bear that walks and talks as in iRobot, since my son asked to make one 20 years ago.
4. A collapsible, folding piano keyboard that feels and sounds like a grand piano and fits in a briefcase.
5. Answering questions like this one.
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Scratch design and build RC Airplanes. Recently completed a TSR-2. In work: 60inch/1.5m Westland Whirlwind and a 1/5 scale BD-5.
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1) I teach horsemanship and retrain problem horses. I ride my own horses(10) 4-5 days/week.
2) I farm 200 acres, growing primarily hay for cattle...and horses of course.
3) Playing with Linux development --- currently writing (more like re-writing over and over) a programming language.
4) Sometimes I sleep.
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In the summer months I make wood working projects that I sell at the local Independent Pharmacy
The profit is donated to Meals on Wheels
50 years ago a friend who owned a pharmacy gave me this display box when all the soap sold
Buy the Vintage 1971 Village Bath Handmade Soap Box Wood Advertising Display | GoodwillFinds[^]
These were batch produced but very exact so I decided to make my own out of Half Inch Baltic Birch Plywood
no glue just screws. they are stained various shades and 5 coats of my home made wipe on oil based Polyurathane
Price is $30.00 to $50.00 based on the wood used and workmanship.
As of now after 5 builds I can work to a tolerance of 1/32nd of an inch
My other product was to copy this box design with no screws and just glue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4-KtUUtRvY
Built a few workbenches but where I live everyone is a DIY'er so sales not so good
plus they are massive 60 in by 36 in and 36 in tall with twin screw tail vise
made with 10 year old red oak 30 in wide jaws. They tip the scale at 250 lb
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pondering the mysteries of Christmas .
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I do volunteer (a.k.a. amateur) run theatre. I'm on the lighting and general tech team.
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And I didn't even know sheep could knit!
I'll get my non-sheep fabricated coat.
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Would an intelligent knitter be called a Knit Wit?
I'll get my coat and join you.
As the aircraft designer said, "Simplicate and add lightness".
PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.3.0 JaxCoder.com
Latest Article: SimpleWizardUpdate
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"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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Sander Rossel wrote: I didn't even know sheep could knit!
Oh, wow. I didn't know that either.
Did you know it takes 16 gallons of water to produce just one avocado?
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I didn't know water could have avocado babies. 
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I will pass this on to my daughter (journeywoman knitter) and my son-in-law's mother (adept-level knitter).
...or is it knittist?
Software Zen: delete this;
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You SOTW were better
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
modified 16-Dec-23 15:42pm.
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Boy, you're full of em of late.
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You silly boy Sander 
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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