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is it stupid because there is no logic from which the rules can be deduced making them arbitrary ?
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That's one reason. Another is why should one operator have precedence over another? I can't think of a good reason.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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Steve Raw wrote: the only one who likes to avoid using recursion
There are certainly cases where it makes sense since there is no expectation that the business would need more. And example is recursing on an asset tree which users work. There is of course no reason for a user to use a tree that is, for example, 1,000 deep.
But I still enforce it by passing a depth variable. I don't do that really due to users doing something silly but rather because developers (including me) doing something silly and producing an endless loop.
Steve Raw wrote: I use parentheses
just to make sure it operates in the proper order.
I do too. Makes it obvious to a maintainer what order I expected rather than leaving it up to them to verify every time it is looked at that the order represents what is actually needed.
Not to mention of course that doing it all the time means one does not get surprised by things like the precedence order for inline conditionals (question mark and colon). Which I have seen people get wrong.
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He asked "Height?"
I said "1.80m"
"Weight?"
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"What are we waiting for?"
I'll refrain from getting my coat and head straight for the door.
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The scale at my doctor's office talks. While waiting for my visit I heard it speaking - One Hundred Eighty Two pounds, One Hundred Twelve pounds, etc. When I stepped on it it said "one at a time please."
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Yesterday, my Windows 10 laptop posted an alert for a potentially unwanted application - YTDVideoDownload. Interestingly, it's the first alert I've had in years on any of my machines. The only software I installed recently on the windows 10 machine is a Discord client. This morning, my Windows 11 laptop is reporting that it has the same application. The only thing that these two machines have in common is yesterday they both updated with the latest from Microsoft, and I run opera on both of them.
Nothing is in the installed s/w list, and I haven't added any plugins to the browsers, so I wonder how it just snuck in.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Quick search pulls up YouTube Downloader. Maybe it's a plugin in Opera?
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well I've been digging deep there. Like in my starting post, the only thing I have installed is the discus client. Opera has not updated in a week (unless it got sucked in with the Windows update).
looking for other people that might have had this pop up.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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You can rest assured MS or one of the big-wigs will never ship with something like that. There's too much money thrown around in the circle jerk that is big tech.
Jeremy Falcon
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Really? like they accidently pushed out HP sw?
I'm missing your sarcasm aren't i? 
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Oh Microsoft, please never change.
So on my Windows 11 laptop with this rogue chunk of code, I kicked off a full Windows Defender scan.... 17 hours ago. It appears to have hung. No cpu being consumed, etc. I think I'll download Malwarebytes, but really MS. You insist that weekly updates are necessary for security and your scanner hangs. Hmmm
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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In conclusion to my original post, this appears to be a false positive. I found it on two other machines (that were not complaining). I have other things to worry about.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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I guess that makes me an 1/8 theist.
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Your coat's on the hook. 
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Okay, that made me chuckle and not groan. 
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Q: What's the difference between an atheist and a theist?
A: One thinks they're smarter with no proof the other thinks God is smarter and sees signs of it everywhere.
I guarantee all y'all gonna be singing a different tune when you come near the end of your life.
Jeremy Falcon
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i encountred this video earlier today . i found it amusing . you might enjoy it also . as for me i have always beeen agnostic . i believe science in particular Physics will sooner or later settle the matter one way or the other . hower i now favor the method of Dr. Sheldon Cooper who states as best as i recall "God if you do in fact exist thank you for my wonderful life . if you do not exist never mind ."
Funniest Ronald Reagan Moments - Atheist 🤣😁 #shorts #funny - YouTube[^]
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BernardIE5317 wrote: as for me i have always beeen agnostic
To me, there's more intelligence behind that than atheism - which is also a religion. I think most atheists confuse God with the flawed personification of God. Which is 100% flawed. But that speaks more to the flaws of man than God. I'll just say this, there are things I've seen that cannot be explained by coincidence. Some may call it the law of attraction or whatever, but it's the same thing.
Funny video btw.
Jeremy Falcon
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Um, not sure 'co-incidence' can cause anything. Maybe you need to revisit your understanding of co-incidence... 
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"Explained" != "caused". Maybe you need to revisit your understanding of "explained".
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the only coincidence i've seen is while watching "Dr. Strangelove" i picked up my copy of the book opened it to a random page glanced at a random line on the page and at that precise moment heard on the film precisely the same dialog written upon which my glance fell .
as for the "law of attraction" i recall learning something of it a few years ago . i found it intriguing . it would be nice if it were in fact true . it is difficult for example to believe however the low odds of winning the lottery can be overcome by mere positive thoughts . if in fact that is the correct understanding of the "law" . though i recall reading amazing results the details of which i now do not recall .
going back to coincidence i have a little story .
i purchase the LP of the soundtrack to "Blade Runner" . with the LP in the distinctive bright orange bag of Rose Records w/ logo i then visited another store an art supply store to view their writing instruments . upon approaching the counter w/ said pens the lady behind the counter spoke to me "Is that the new Vangelis album ?" i did not know what a "Vangelis" was . upon returning home i examined the liner notes and discovered the composer was none other ! i attributed this to womanly wisdom . namely she sized me up . perhaps we would have been sympatico . but being the social cripple i never would know .
another similar story .
at lunch several other fellow workers began discussing electronic music . one of the fellows was attempting to recall the name of a particular such . he could not . he asked me to remember for him . i replied "Tomita" as i happened to have an album of his . he affirmed that is who he was attempting to recall . i do not know how he knew i knew . perhaps he sized me up . we were not particularly sympatico .
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: To me, there's more intelligence behind that than atheism - which is also a religion
Just like my favorite hobby is not to collect stamps.
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