Welcome to the Lounge

Amarnath S4-Dec-23 2:50

Amarnath S

4-Dec-23 2:50

Obligatory reference

Maximilien4-Dec-23 2:57

Maximilien

4-Dec-23 2:57

9 out of 10 dentists say you are correct.

$Shucks | :-\$

CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair

StarNamer@work4-Dec-23 13:06

StarNamer@work

4-Dec-23 13:06

A survey found that 88.3% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

theoldfool5-Dec-23 1:02

theoldfool

5-Dec-23 1:02

"Statistics are used by rascals to convince fools"
Author unknown (to me).

>64
Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

nehathomas4-Dec-23 18:58

nehathomas

4-Dec-23 18:58

nice

jschell4-Dec-23 3:46

4-Dec-23 3:46

From that link...

"on the profound influence that music can have on our moral compass."

Perhaps they don't understand cause and effect?

Seems to me more likely that they have it exactly backwards.

dandy724-Dec-23 6:30

4-Dec-23 6:30

Didn't read the article, but I'm guessing someone is still trying to claim heavy metal will make you want to murder your parents and such...?

jeron14-Dec-23 6:53

jeron1

4-Dec-23 6:53

dandy72 wrote:
still trying to claim heavy metal will make you want to murder your parents and such

I remember those days well!

"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

trønderen4-Dec-23 7:05

4-Dec-23 7:05

That can very well be the case even if you don't like heavy metal ...

dandy724-Dec-23 7:43

4-Dec-23 7:43

Heavy metal was just the first thing that came to mind. I might as well have picked reggae. Smile | :)

It's not the music. If someone decides to go on a killing spree, he's already got a screw loose, and that's what should be examined (for one, what meds was he on? Is that ever asked?) - but it's easier to blame music. And music, unlike Big Pharma, doesn't sponsor the news.

Same with video games. You don't become proficient at using a weapon no matter how many hours you put in using a mouse or Xbox controller.

trønderen4-Dec-23 9:13

4-Dec-23 9:13

dandy72 wrote:
If someone decides to go on a killing spree, he's already got a screw loose

I don't think we are supposed to discuss current international politics in The Lounge, so let's not pick up that one.

jschell5-Dec-23 5:00

5-Dec-23 5:00

Ted Bundy. Not current at all.

His actions were not caused by porn. That was nonsense peddle by him to the evangelical riding the media wave to promote his own agenda. Bundy was hoping to escape the death penalty. And thus perhaps to escape - again.

But also wasn't caused by the cheerleader catalogs. Which were in the car Bundy was driving when arrested.

dandy725-Dec-23 8:21

5-Dec-23 8:21

I must've missed something on the news, 'cuz I thought we were talking about the claims that some music genres turn people into psychopaths.

k50544-Dec-23 7:05

k5054

4-Dec-23 7:05

Yes, but you have to play the record backwards. Same is true for the Beatles "White Album", I think.

"A little song, a little dance, a little seltzer down your pants"
Chuckles the clown

trønderen4-Dec-23 9:11

4-Dec-23 9:11

How do you do that today, when you access all your music from a streaming service?

Even with CDs, it takes some effort.

The only way I can think of is to read the music into a sound editor capable of reversing a clip. At least the simple ones do not have that capability. You could of course write your own program (this is, after all, a site for programmers Smile | :)

) to do it, but then you first have to decode the file from whatever compression format, and, unless you do the compressed-to-wav yourself so you have the file in memory, you will have to learn the details of the .wav format.

It can be arranged, yes it can be arranged.

jschell5-Dec-23 5:02

5-Dec-23 5:02

trønderen wrote:
How do you do that today, when you access all your music from a streaming service?

Good question.

It must prove that digital copies are just an international conspiracy which is attempting to hide the true messages contained in the media.

Makes one wonder though what podcasts played in reverse might say.

dandy725-Dec-23 8:24

5-Dec-23 8:24

trønderen wrote:
The only way I can think of is to read the music into a sound editor capable of reversing a clip. At least the simple ones do not have that capability.

If you have a file you can read (and not a stream), Audacity can reverse a clip.

jschell6-Dec-23 7:37

6-Dec-23 7:37

It is a secret but I am positive you can copy any stream to a file.

dandy726-Dec-23 11:05

6-Dec-23 11:05

Good luck finding the end of a live, continuous stream. :-p

But I know what you mean. That's how, after all, streams end up on pirate sites.

jschell8-Dec-23 4:29

8-Dec-23 4:29

Just noting, far as I recall, the hidden messages were never at the end. Nor the beginning.

dandy728-Dec-23 6:42

8-Dec-23 6:42

Right, but you still need a complete file, since you can't reverse a stream in real time. Unless you only care about reversing a chunk of it. If you only reverse one second of it every second, you're only going to end up with even worse gibberish. Smile | :)

StarNamer@work4-Dec-23 13:14

StarNamer@work

4-Dec-23 13:14

Actually the most likely murder (or serious injury) was by the parents whose expensive record deck's precision tone arm and pickup had been damaged by some fool forcibly spinning the turntable backwards! Smile | :)

jschell5-Dec-23 4:55

5-Dec-23 4:55

dandy72 wrote:
someone is still trying to claim heavy metal will make you want to murder your parents and such.

Definitely.

Or whatever else they don't like.

trønderen4-Dec-23 6:51

4-Dec-23 6:51

If there is a single unambiguous and undisputed definition of what is "moral", and this definition is associated with institutions promoting certain kind of music, it comes natural: Those who support those institutions and their morals, have higher tendency to listen to the kind of music promoted by those institutions.

Except that I will never agree that there is a single unambiguous and undisputed definition of what is "moral". E.g. I strongly object to a great number of the practices of the Christian religion as being "moral" - even though they themselves hold it up as their "moral".

A second thing: I have for many years been singing in church choirs. Because the churches turns out to capture control over so much resources that they can pay some very good conductors. I listen to a lot of church music, because the Christian churches for centuries have had enough resources to grab the best composers, paying them to make music to support the ideas of the church. That was the way to make a living in earlier days: To work for the church. Today, the way to find a place to sing under a great conductor: Search the church choirs.

I do. Both listening and singing. I do it for the music. Some of the moral, I detest. Some of my true morals would make church people (and maybe a fair share of others) throw up, if I revealed them. I don't. From my music preferences, you would say that I am a highly church moral person. And I'll let you all believe that; I am not revealing my true thoughts. I would strengthen the conclusions of this study. But it would be false.