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No, but the 2 accounts are used very carefully, never exposed on line (one is a domain). I use their VPN and password manager as well.
>64
Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.
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Edumacate me.
Proton mail is an email service. How is an email account "never exposed online"? I suppose if you've never actually used it, that might count...?
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Proton Mail has a function where you can HIDE your email address
Not sure how it works.
but because I only use said email address with one company
I am guessing the company is not secure or someone internally has sold my email address
or has used it to send spam
All my other Proton Mail accounts have never had a spam email in 4 years of use
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Ah. So it acts as a proxy.
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Only use it business to business on domain account, and personal on other. Do not post it anywhere. I do forward duck.com mail to one. If you do Proton account to Proton account, it is encrypted all the way. If I do bitcoin transactions of over 100 bitcoins, I use it. 
>64
Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.
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My ISP is so worthless and slow I have concerns using any VPN
I live in a ISP desert which is very remote Mountains of Arizona
When I moved here 20 years ago we only had Home Depot but Lowe's
could not stand one Big Box store in town so 5 years ago they built across the street
from HD Wal-Mart has built BIGGER at three different locations in that time span
Progress is nice but we now have 20 new traffic lights
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I was in AZ earlier this year, Scottsdale then Sedona by way of Jerome. If it had a little more water I might be convinced to move there, Northern Arizona I mean.
I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.
I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.
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Sadly Lake Mary just south of Flagstaff is gone
I live in Lakeside just really part of Show Low, Arizona
We have lakes all around that support fishing and boating
About an hour away is Roosevelt Lake and Sunrise Lake near the New Mexico broader
When I moved to Arizona I lived inside the Grand Canyon Park it took some getting use to
I grew up in Canton, Ohio The biggest joy was and still is the Low Humidity
We are growing which is good for the economy and expanded services but it is still
a small town with small town politics
All the gas stations are owned by 5 people if one changes price they all agree to change the price
up or down. They gather at the coffee bar where I have breakfast now and then.
They are quite the crew
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I've been using it for a year, but haven't encountered it yet
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Nope. Then again, it is only used for DigiD and important stuff, the rest goes to GMail.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Thanks Eddy
Took a look at DigiD might give that a spin around the block looks neat
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I don't know if DigiD is available outside the Netherlands; it is used as a proof of identity and required to do taxes. I doubt that companies outside NL accept it. It is like a validated and verified SSN.
For each email adress, spam isn't a function of the provider, it is where you leave and use your adress. 50% of the time they only aks your mail to subscribe you to some mailing list. That is what GMail is for.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Have used ProtonMail for several years without any particular precautions and do get some spam but nearly all of it ends up in the spam folder automatically, others go there after I designate them as spam once.
There's nothing about ProtonMail that would prevent you getting on a spammer's list that I know of.
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I'm listening to the recently released book, Fancy Bear Goes Phishing: The Dark History of the Information Age, in Five Extraordinary Hacks[^].
This is a fantastic, well-written, entertaining and instructive book.
It starts out with the story of the first Internet virus or worm created by Robert Morris[^] which really was a science experiment gone wrong. He was subsequently awarded tenure at MIT.
Anyways, the book is written by Scott Shapiro[^] who is a professor at Yale law school.
The author learned assembly language and other technology so he could write the book and it absolutely shows that he is knolwedgable.
If you love this kind of technology history and how these things came into being it is definitely an entertaining read that does a great job of explaining how the technology came about also.
Also, does a great job of explaining the history without glorifying those who created malware.
As a matter of fact, you will discover how that originally white-hat hackers in Bulgaria were writing novel code that could attach to .COM (old DOS executable type) and how they were writing code to find them and remove them. Really interesting.
Have any of you read this book?
tl;dr
Also, this reminds me of a book that came out when I was just entering IT and development world.
It was by John McAfee (the antivirus guy) in 1989, Computer viruses, worms, data diddlers, killer programs, and other threats to your system: What they are, how they work, and how to defend your PC, Mac, or mainframe [^]
I'd love to know if anyone has read that book. I'm considering getting it to get a perspective on this stuff from the beginning. It's just a hobby of mine to read this stuff. Very interesting.
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Is that title of your title thread properly formulated? I feel something is missing but I’m not a native English speaker, I might be wrong. (It could be a marginal but legit way of expressing yourself)
modified 12-Oct-23 5:42am.
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[The] title [of the book] made me think [it: the book] might be [hype: an exaggeration], but [the book is] actually fantastic!
I filled in the implied words.
I write emails like this all of the time and then have to go back and fill in the implied words on review.
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raddevus wrote: by John McAfee (the antivirus guy) in 1989,
Just noting he got famous for other things after that.
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That was the "infamous" part, longer time after he sold McAfee (the AV company) to Intel in 1994.
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raddevus wrote: It's just a hobby of mine to read this stuff. Very interesting.
If you like this stuff you might like The Cuckoo's Egg[^]. I found it very interesting at the time. Cliff Stoll's other book, Silicon Snake Oil[^] is also interesting if you want to see how wrong even very intelligent people can be when looking into the future.
Also, for me, a good listen was the BBC podcast The Lazarus Heist[^]. It's not so ancient history but I found it entertaining over a 10 hours drive.
Mircea
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Mircea Neacsu wrote: If you like this stuff you might like The Cuckoo's Egg[^].
Yes, I recently (a couple of years ago) read The Cuckoo's Egg.
Very interesting because Cliff Stoll ends that book mentioning the Morris Worm and how he ended up being involved with it also.
That's why this new book is so good, because it kind of starts off where Stoll's great book ends.
I just listened to more of it during lunch and this book continues to be really great.
The research is fantastic!!
Thanks for the additional resources. 
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I've read it too. Very good. One memorable part was his physics exam and the question "Why is the sky blue?", repeatedly followed by "Could you be more specific?"
Must read it again.
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The cuckoo's egg is definitely a great read.
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Huh, Kindle, but paperback coming out in 2024? Bizarre.
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I think it may be only hardback right now. I saw a few copies of hardback at the library.
You're right though, most tech books release directly in paperback.
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Your link leads to a tee shirt
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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