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Re: How often do you change Web Browsers?

Member 1330167910-Oct-23 21:09

10-Oct-23 21:09

I've used FF for decades (since before the getfirefox campaign, since it was still in beta, actually).

I'm not particularly happy with the way Mozilla is going with it, but considering that the alternative is to further the monopoly of a single browser engine, I still stuck with it.

Recently, I've heard good things about a FF fork - Floorp. Tried it briefly only.

It's about time that someone forked FF properly: Mozilla is a horrible steward, and spends all their money on diversity outreach while firing FF engineers. It's no wonder that FF went from 75% market share (pre-diversity initiatives) to around 5% market share (post-diversity initiatives).

You cannot even contribute money to FF development anymore (I used to contribute), you can only contribute to Mozilla, and they make no promises about what they use your contribution for.

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Re: How often do you change Web Browsers?

Sander Rossel10-Oct-23 21:10

Sander Rossel

10-Oct-23 21:10

Back in high school, which is about 20 years ago, I switched from IE to Firefox.
A few years later I switched to Chrome and I'm still using it today.

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Re: How often do you change Web Browsers?

DerekT-P10-Oct-23 22:09

DerekT-P

10-Oct-23 22:09

Rarely. 99% of the time I use Chrome, but will switch to Edge when I need to not be signed in to something. (Chrome keeps all my passwords and logins, Edge I never save anything. There are times when I need to be logged into two different accounts simultaneously, and so using two browsers is helpful). I do have FF installed and had to use it just last week when I got a bug report for one of my public sites. Turns out FF doesn't handle javascript: protocol in links the way that everybody else does; it executes the code then displays any object resulting from that code, normally [Object object], as the entire content of the page. Don't know who's doing it wrong, FF or the rest of the world, but it was a quick fix so don't care.

Not keen on Edge when I've used it, but that's possibly because I've never bothered spending time configuring it how I like - don't even know if it can be done. I work on a laptop screen 100% of the time so its default big blocky URL bar and tabs just waste space for me. Its debug tools aren't what I'm used to so are slower for me to use. Just inertia, really.

And that's basically the reason I don't often change browsers!

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Re: How often do you change Web Browsers?

Jan Heckman10-Oct-23 22:27

Jan Heckman

10-Oct-23 22:27

I was not aware of this, using Firefox exclusively for just a month now (on a windows box btw).
Googling Firefox freezes PC permanently at unpredictable times, forcing me to force-restart pc | Firefox Support Forum | Mozilla Support[^] puts it at hardware (graphics) hardware acceleration. Did you try this? Perhaps video watching suffers, haven't tried.

Re: How often do you change Web Browsers?

raddevus11-Oct-23 2:34

raddevus

11-Oct-23 2:34

Thanks a ton for posting that.
I searched for any related news and couldn't find it.
I'm always interested in root causes of issues like this one.
It's quite terrible because my machine would lock but I could still hear video playing in the background but once it locks like this there is no escape.
A long, long time ago on an OS far away (NT 4.0) I had a graphics problem that occurred the same way.
The graphics would freeze making you think the machine was frozen but it was just the graphics card so I thought it might be something like that.
Thanks again.

Re: How often do you change Web Browsers?

den2k8810-Oct-23 22:58

den2k88

10-Oct-23 22:58

Rarely. I use Firefox since version 4. I moved to Brave in my current company since out proxy filters out every request not coming from Chrome, and changing the presentation string in Firefox gave me some rendering issues.

On my phone I use Brave as Firefox tended to cook my battery and it doesn't support add-ons on mobile, Brave at leas does a minimum of ad-blocking.

Sometimes I use Brave if Adblock is detected and a page refuses to load.

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Re: How often do you change Web Browsers?

Graeme_Grant10-Oct-23 23:27

Graeme_Grant

10-Oct-23 23:27

I have most web browsers installed so I can test, even though most are Chromium these days... Half the icons on my task bar are web browsers, both Windows and MacOS.

I'm actually enjoying "Opera One developer". It has a few extra features baked in that other Chromium browsers don't.

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Re: How often do you change Web Browsers?

BryanFazekas11-Oct-23 2:15

BryanFazekas

11-Oct-23 2:15

Graeme_Grant wrote:
I have most web browsers installed so I can test

Ditto. Professionally, my group develops on Edge as that is the organization standard, and it works fine. We test on Chrome and Firefox.

The ancient application we replaced a year+ ago ran ONLY on IE (yeah, it was that old) and pre-Win10, the org standard was IE. We cheered when that changed, and cheered again when the customer agreed we didn't need to support IE!!!

On my Android phone I use DuckDuckGo, and occasionally Bing. I don't use Chrome for anything. On my personal PCs, I use Vivaldi (Chrome clone) as my primary, with Edge and Firefox installed and used occasionally. I don't have Chrome installed.

It's weird, but I trust Microsoft more than Google. This doesn't mean I trust MS; rather that I see MS as the lesser evil, even if not by much.

Re: How often do you change Web Browsers?

raddevus11-Oct-23 2:38

raddevus

11-Oct-23 2:38

Graeme_Grant wrote:
I'm actually enjoying "Opera One developer".

It's good to hear someone mention Opera.
I used it quite extensively back in 2010-2012 time period, but then there was one site (probably my most important site) where it wouldn't work. Oreilly.com (where I'm a subscriber to tech books online). At the time it wouldn't render books properly and I couldn't read in Opera so I gave up on it.
I need to try it again, because I did like the browser quite well.

Re: How often do you change Web Browsers?

darktrick54411-Oct-23 2:31

darktrick544

11-Oct-23 2:31

I switched to Opera couple years ago, never looked back.

Re: How often do you change Web Browsers?

raddevus11-Oct-23 2:39

raddevus

11-Oct-23 2:39

Very few people mention Opera.
I used it back in 2010-2012 quite extensively but it didn't support one important site (oreilly books) for me and I gave up on it. It was a really nice browser even then. I need to try it out again.

Re: How often do you change Web Browsers?

darktrick54411-Oct-23 2:57

darktrick544

11-Oct-23 2:57

It's very solid and fast, I've got zero complaints.

Re: How often do you change Web Browsers?

honey the codewitch11-Oct-23 2:32

honey the codewitch

11-Oct-23 2:32

I'm locked into the Chrome ecosystem for better or worst - probably worse.

But syncing everything across all my devices with basically one transparent service is just too appealing to me.

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Re: How often do you change Web Browsers?

raddevus11-Oct-23 2:43

raddevus

11-Oct-23 2:43

honey the codewitch wrote:
But syncing everything across all my devices with basically one transparent service is just too appealing to me.

Yeah, I totally understand that. I think Chrome did that first and it is really great so you can open a tab on a different device later on than the one you originally opened it on.

FF has it's own way of doing that (and of course you need yet another account) but it works really great. And, they don't use the data to track you which is nice.
Brave does this also and without the tracking.
It's difficult to break the ecosystem because they are so convenient but quite a few years ago I was on Android phone, Chrome browser, Google Docs, Google Search and I thought it was too much.
Now I use an iphone, DuckDuckGo, Brave to break it up.

Re: How often do you change Web Browsers?

honey the codewitch11-Oct-23 2:45

honey the codewitch

11-Oct-23 2:45

I am one of the most boring "consumers" on the Internet. They can track me all they want. Ain't gonna do anything useful with it.

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Re: How often do you change Web Browsers?

theoldfool11-Oct-23 3:47

theoldfool

11-Oct-23 3:47

I mostly (98%) run Brave, with some use of Vivaldi when I want 2 sites on the screen. Keep Firefox for rare occasions when the others don't render. Now making me wonder about Opera, ran it years ago.

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Re: How often do you change Web Browsers?

Mark Starr11-Oct-23 4:12

Mark Starr

11-Oct-23 4:12

I use FF mostly. Been using it for more than 8 years.

I have Chrome installed, and use it occasionally for Google App stuff and sometimes when a site doesn’t function properly with FF.

I loaded Vivaldi, It has an email client interface that I use on the rare occasion that I want to check an account that won’t add to Outlook.

Of course, I have Edge, but frown and cuss when it gets called from a clicked link.

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Re: How often do you change Web Browsers?

raddevus11-Oct-23 4:33

raddevus

11-Oct-23 4:33

Mark Starr wrote:
Edge, but frown and cuss when it gets called from a clicked link.

Yes, recently that new "feature" they added where if you click a link from Outlook client then Edge says, "Hey, you clicked the link from Outlook so we'll make Edge your default browser for that." is annoying. Now you not only have a "default" system browser, but you have a "default" browser when link clicked from Outlook. Great, MS. We want one default. Imagine if every application that you clicked a link from tried to make a different default browser. No thanks.

Re: How often do you change Web Browsers?

Faustoleon11-Oct-23 5:43

Faustoleon

11-Oct-23 5:43

I used chrome for some years, but fot proposes of security begin to use FF and it has been excellent!

Re: How often do you change Web Browsers?

sasadler11-Oct-23 6:33

sasadler

11-Oct-23 6:33

My main browser is Vivaldi but I do have to switch every now and then. There's a financial site I use and the only browser that lets me login is Edge. Chrome, Firefox and Vivaldi just don't work there. Seems weird that Edge will work but Chrome and Vivaldi won't. Aren't they all based upon Chromium?

Re: How often do you change Web Browsers?

jthompson1211-Oct-23 7:27

jthompson12

11-Oct-23 7:27

Last 10 years i used Opera and I'm not going to change it yet

Re: How often do you change Web Browsers?

raddevus11-Oct-23 8:07

raddevus

11-Oct-23 8:07

Glad to hear someone mentioning Opera.
After switching to Brave (again) from FF, I'm starting to get settled in, but I'm going to check out Opera and see how it runs on :
* Linux desktop,
* iPad Pro
* windows 10
I wonder if it has features for "sharing" open tabs like other browsers? Probably does.

Re: How often do you change Web Browsers?

Ralf Quint11-Oct-23 9:05

Ralf Quint

11-Oct-23 9:05

You mean as my default, regular work web browser?

I think the last time I switched in that sense was in 2004, when I started to use Firefox. Before that, I had used Opera for a couple of years after Netscape died when AOL bought them off.

Never had any serious issue with Firefox, certainly much less than with any other browser pretender. Only issue that I encountered was that when they changed their API for browser extensions, a couple of add-ons didn't work anymore and the re-designed ones, using the new API, never created the same functionality. But that's where Waterfox (Classic) came to the rescue... Wink | ;)

Re: How often do you change Web Browsers?

RedDk11-Oct-23 9:31

RedDk

11-Oct-23 9:31

Thanks to this post I went poking around on a practically full system SSD while describing in my mind a scenario where I would begin thinking about cloning it, after backup, and discovered that IE11 was still coming about. So today (that's right, she's on autopilot) I went to Control Panel/Programs and Apps/Windows Features and things(sp?) and unticked it's box.

So in answer to your actual question, once in a blue moon.

Re: How often do you change Web Browsers?

BernardIE531712-Oct-23 7:40

BernardIE5317

12-Oct-23 7:40

i've stuck w/ Edge as i am fond of the "Collections" feature .

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