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Personal responsibility, the "Why can't I do what I want if I don't harm anyone" argument was never a thing. The personal responsibility argument is all about doing something destructive, self-destructive or foolish. No one ever deployed the personal responsibility argument in favor of doing something positive. No one ever said "Why can't I cure cancer as long as I don't harm anyone. This asymmetry ought to be the first clue that the argument is fallacious.

The personal responsibility argument is all about defining "harm" narrowly to avoid inconvenient costs. The smoker who says he isn't hurting anyone doesn't count the harm to himself, doesn't consider the negative health effects of his smoke-cloud, doesn't think of his dependents left alone when he dies.

If you think human beings are lonely apex predators, like lions, then it's understandable why you'd want to leave the weakest lions to choke to death on their smoke. But many people regard genus homo as a social animal. We are, by this definition, our brothers' keepers. Society has an interest in helping a smoker to quit for the same reason they would stop a depressed person from killing themselves or stop a drug addict from shooting up. We're just better when we don't throw lives away. Plus there are those externalized costs of smoking (or suicide, or drug use) which is why we are better when lives are preserved.
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