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Replace the motherboard?
(My mistake: when someone says "new PC", I assume off the shelf; I just refer to my "latest creation")
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That's certainly a possibility, Gerry, but not until I'm convinced that it's faulty. The odds of bad RAM are far higher than a bad MB. Oh well, it will eventually become obvious what's wrong. 
Will Rogers never met me.
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Have you considered that you might have a bad memory module? Did you make certain that the RAM you installed is on the compatibility list of the motherboard?
I have always used Asus motherboards with great success.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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It's possible, Richard, but I've no reliable way to test it. The motherboard BIOS setup includes MEMTEST86, but the results are inconclusive. It bails out and fails while running, but the summary results say PASS: 100%. Go figure. There are other memory test utilities out there, but they all assume an operating system is there to execute them. I do have a fresh copy of Ubuntu that I can try, I guess.
Will Rogers never met me.
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Yes, the Ubuntu sounds like a very good thing to try. I had the same problem with a machine that I built in 2015. It wouldn't load Windows and the problem turned out to be the RAM was not compatible with the motherboard. That's something very important to be aware of.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Curiously, I used the PC Builder system at Newegg to select components, and it supposedly checks compatibility. But then I did do all my own checking just in case.
Will Rogers never met me.
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Hiren's stopped the work a while ago, but there is another new DVD of it for PC's from windows 10 times.
It might bring a couple of tools inside helpfull for the new hardware.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
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There is many ways to check, you can use the Windows Memory Test Point 9 here , you can make your own bootable memtest86+ stick (download UEFI or MBR boot): MemTest86 - Download now!, or use Hiren's BootCD 15.2 Download | TechSpot.
Maybe checking that the RAM runs on the specs in the motherboard helps, my Kingston Fury RAMs did not start with the last two AMD boards (Asus, Asrock), had to manually set the frequency (lucky me, nothing beyond that). It was auto-recognized as a much slower RAM with different timing.
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The MemTest86 UEFI boot stick did the trick. I've isolated it to one pair of memory sticks, but can't sort it out beyond that. Sadly, since I've never had a failure before, I didn't keep the original packaging, so I can't return those two. Oh well, I suppose 32 GB will do for now. Thanks for the tip!
Will Rogers never met me.
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Was going to say I never had anything like this. Well, but failure to start into Windows (must have been 7 at the time) I had once and it was cured after noticing the memory modules were not clearly endorsed, or rather, I could not get anyone to say that they had a working config same as mine. So I changed the memory, which had practically be given to me, hated to spend money on an uncertain thing, but then it worked ok.
And yes, it was an ASUS mobo, like all others I worked with.
Afaik/reputation-wise Asus has good builds but documentation is not of same level.
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Roger Wright wrote: I've assembled a lot of PC's in the past 30 years, for myself and for others. I've never experienced a single glitch, as everything has always gone perfectly smoothly.
It's probably the RAM, everything else is cookie-cutter. Motherboards come with a lot of optimizations these days in the areas of CPU, GPU, and RAM. Assuming you're supplying enough power to all the parts or you're not overheating... Here's what you need to do:
- Go get a BIOS update on a USB stick from another computer. Update your BIOS to fix any bugs, etc. since the motherboard was released.
- Then go into your BIOS and disable ALL optimizations - especially for your RAM.
- Now, install windows. Go through the Windows update process, etc.
- Then and only then, turn back on those optimizations one-by-one to see if you still have a problem.
Roger Wright wrote: But I've never used an ASUS motherboard. I will never do so again.
ASUS sucks now. They used to be awesome. Times change.
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: ASUS sucks now. They used to be awesome. Times change
This is the first I've heard of this. Is it the quality control? The components they use? What sucks about them? I've always had good luck with them.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Richard Andrew x64 wrote: This is the first I've heard of this. Is it the quality control? The components they use? What sucks about them? I've always had good luck with them.
I haven't built a PC myself lately, so I haven't personally bought an ASUS motherboard recently. But, I'm going off this video[^] which talks about overvoltage in a beta feature treated as production ready that also voids your warranty if you use the fix for it... despite it being a fix for something that shouldn't be sent to the consumer in the first place as it wasn't fully tested.
Jeremy Falcon
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I don't agree with your assessment of their boards. I've had continuously good luck with their ROG and TUF lines, even now.
My current board is an ASUS ROG Strix. My last Board was a TUF. I only buy ASUS boards.
Don't know what you've found with them, but other than one misstep with a backward cap on some batches of one of their boards in the ROG line at one point, they've been solid - and every company screws up once in awhile.
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We've already established a discussion with you has a 99.9% probability of being an argument. I would expect you'd not agree. I wouldn't expect a reply however.
Jeremy Falcon
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If I had glanced at your username before I replied I wouldn't have expected a helpful response anyway.
Have a nice day.
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Cool. So we established you don’t fully read the posts you reply to.
Have a nice day.
Jeremy Falcon
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I read the part where you said don't expect a reply from you. As you replied twice.
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Clearly, being as argumentative as you are… you feel the need to get the last word.
Fine, you can have it. Just leave me alone. I tire of this childish behavior.
Jeremy Falcon
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Boy, you are one silly intemperate person!
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For one, I don't care what you think. For two, don't judge me based on your out of context conclusion. For three, if you actually were neutral and opted to lean on intellectual observations of this thread, you'll see I was right in all my points. Instead, you feel the need to demonstrate your bias to help you feel better like you're a savior or something. You're not.
So, to put it simply, if you're going to be "that type" who loves to argue then leave me alone as well. You are not worth my time with this low level of discourse. If CP had a blocking feature, I'd block you too. I deseve peace, not the antics of argumentative people with nothing better to do.
Jeremy Falcon
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You are in trouble now! You are on his naughty list. As am I.
Presumably because you disagree with him along with providing objective detail as to why. And man he doesn't like that.
And his response is that you should never ever comment on his replies. He probably doesn't understand how free speech works.
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I agree, probably RAM.
Saw the video on ASUS. Thanx, news to me.
If accurate, beware.
I have built my share of computer systems.
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BTW, be tolerant of argumentative feedback.
You are pretty good at it yourself.
It's all good. That's how we learn.
Ciao
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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I’m on my phone, so I can’t properly quote text… but any time man.
About the arguments… totally guilty. 
These days, I see it as a waste of time and energy though. It only distracts from the people I want to talk to.
I’ve managed enough people to know those that only disagree are usually lousy team players. And a few of them are bad at their job. Some aren’t. A lot are. It’s just wasting time.
Anywho, I see what you’re saying, and that’s why I ask the bad characters to leave me alone. I’m tired of them. They won’t though. Dang Internet.
Jeremy Falcon
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