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trønderen24-May-23 10:05
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Kenneth Haugland wrote:
f you have a fixed price deal with your electricity provider you could have been paid to use electricity for quite some time
This is a crazy effect of the crazy way the subsidizing is implemented: You receive a refund that does not scale with the amount you pay for the power, but what you would have paid if you were on a spot price contract. With a fixed price contract, you were not at all affected by the rising power prices last fall, yet you received compensation for it. It is the craziest subsidizing scheme I have ever seen anywhere!

The majority of Norwegian domestic customers are on spot price contracts, and for many years, that has turned out to be the cheapest alternative. Last fall was the first time period ever when the extra price you pay for having a "predictable" power bill returns in a lower total cost. That is for the winter we have been through - and with a fixed price, you have no benefit of wind and sun bringing the price down below zero.

The power line company reads the power consumed by you every hour. This amount is multiplied by the Nord Pool spot price and summed up, so when the Nord Pool price is negative, the total sum is reduced. Your power provider usually adds a tiny, kWh-fee on top of the spot price.

On top of that sum comes the bill from the power line company, composed of a fixed cost per kWh, and a monthly fee set by your peak hourly consumption (the maximum of 3 hours on separate days).

So to actually reach a zero or negative power bill in total would require lots of days with very negative spot prices, so much that it covers up for both the power company's surcharge and the power line bill. That won't ever happen. There is only one below-zero factor in the calculation. It is the same factor that was at NOK 7-8/kWh (70-90 cents/kWh) last winter, and it does make a difference!
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