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resuna8-May-23 3:13
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resuna8-May-23 8:01
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I don't think we disagree on Apple's hardware ecosystem, which is the bit that confuses me. Their hardware is anemic and restricted and overpriced, and it's part of the cost of the OS. The OS, on the other hand, plays very nice with the other children.

I do UNIX, and my Mac makes a pretty good and pretty standards-compliant UNIX that happens to have a pretty good local app ecosystem on top of that. Remember, my original point was about Microsoft *advertising* a standards compliant platform (C++, the POSIX subsystem) but locking you into their proprietary environment if you actually tried to make use of it. Apple is exactly the opposite.

Right now I have my Mac mini, a Linux laptop, a Linux firewall, and a handful of FreeBSD- and Linux-based servers. They all work together and I can run the same programs and scripts on any of them. I can even <u>ssh -X</u> to a server and run Firefox or whatever natively on my Mac without having to use a screen-scraper like VNC or Remote Desktop. My Windows laptop, on the other hand, is basically a game machine with a web browser.

Apple in the '80s and '90s, before the switch to UNIX, was a whole different company. It's been 20 years since they abandoned their funky and exclusively proprietary desktop.
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