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theoldfool wrote: 1. You can't win
Can't I?[^]?
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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touche my backside, I've been stabbed!
>64
Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.
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Yes, they now need a phone number for TFA. I gave them my land line number, not my cell number.
Eddy Vluggen wrote: And your GPS is on, right?
No, it's off unless I'm driving with Google Maps, which is rare, since I have a Garmin in my car. I also don't stay logged in to FB and never log in to Google.
/ravi
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I suspect the problem may be that you have duplicated two different accounts (screenshot[^]). They don't like you doing that, especially as you've added yourself as your own friend.
It may be that someone else has set up a second account in your name. I had similar happen to me; someone setup an account in my name, copied my profile images and others, then started messaging my friends to say they'd had to re-open the account and to please re-friend them. Fortunately I have few gullible  friends and I spotted the issue within a few hours. Easy to contact those who'd fallen for it, and a single abuse report to FB got the fake account closed down within an hour. I was actually very impressed with Facebook's response.
I barely use Facebook socially, but it is invaluable for research purposes and quite good for advertising community events.
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DerekT-P wrote: I suspect the problem may be that you have duplicated two different accounts
Warcraft gives a warning if a username is already taken. FB didn't when I signed up. Regardless, point two then;
DerekT-P wrote: They don't like you doing that
I do not like them asking for my mobile phone. I do not like signing up, not using and then getting a mail I've broken the rules. That's a deceitful way of getting my mobile number. I'm not paranoid enough to think FB tracks me, but they would love to hook up my phone number to my profile to see if it matches any other shooping-tracking data they bought.
DerekT-P wrote: and quite good for advertising community events
The current event is called Carnaval and needs no advertising.
"Community events"? How does that one work?
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Facebook (generally) uses "real" names rather than nicknames. It'd be a bit of a bummer if you're called John Smith and you couldn't sign up because there was already a John Smith registered. But running two accounts with the same name is a violation of the Ts+Cs I believe.
Not disputing for one moment what you say, but FB have never asked me for my mobile number. You can opt-in to use 2FA with text messages, but there are other 2FA options.
Community events? You join a local group, and post in that group to advertise whatever real-life meeting or event you want to publicise. I tell people about events on my local heritage railway in about a dozen different groups, covering the main town and a couple of smaller villages along the line, plus in county-wide "what's on" groups, as well as railway-based interest groups and so on. Likewise when researching telegraph marker posts (see my sig) I join local history groups around the country and search for photos of them, or post a link to my site and ask if people know of any, as well as nationwide groups such as industrial archaeology, telecomms groups and so on. Works really well.
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DerekT-P wrote: Facebook (generally) uses "real" names rather than nicknames. It'd be a bit of a bummer if you're called John Smith and you couldn't sign up because there was already a John Smith registered. But running two accounts with the same name is a violation of the Ts+Cs I believe.
You're saying if a Mom does not give a fully global unique name, it is in violation? The EULA is almost never enforced. Do they warn Moms in the UK if there's already a child with that name and that such is a FB violation if registered? If the girlfriend comes and asks me how to call the baby, I'd best suggest a (random?) GUID?
I do like the John Smith example, as a common first name is "Jan" and a common last name is "Smeets" in this country, with one of the more familiar folk-singers being "Jantje Smeets".
I imagine FB denying president Bush senior access to his account, because there's already a president Bush registered.
DerekT-P wrote: Community events? You join a local group, and post in that group to advertise whatever real-life meeting or event you want to publicise. I tell people about events on my local heritage railway in about a dozen different groups, covering the main town and a couple of smaller villages along the line, plus in county-wide "what's on" groups, as well as railway-based interest groups and so on.
I mistranslated community there; interest groups sounds more logical. "Local heritage railway" was the next, what IS that? So, yeah, we do have one in this city too, we just call them different.
Thanks for the explanation though, it is appreciated 
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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No, the point is they do allow multiple accounts with the same name: there are two 'Eddy Vluggen's and countless John Smith's. If they didn't allow that they'd just whack on a unique index. What's not permitted is for one person to have two accounts. In your case I guess they're looking at IP addresses / location / browser agent / cookies, plus the two accounts have the same name, and some (many?) of the same friends. My guess is they want your mobile number to dis-ambiguate the two accounts and confirm that maybe it really is just a co-incidence, rather than either a breach of their rules or out-and-out fraud.
My "local" heritage railway (it's not local to me, and I pass several others to get there!) is a privately-owned railway line, restored to largely as it was in the 1950s/1960s, running a mix of steam and diesel trains. It's a hobby for steam enthusiasts, a living museum, a fun day out, an educational resource, and much more. In April we'll become the first such heritage line to run our trains onto the national network main line (another already runs their trains over a minor branch line; we'll be running onto the electrified, double-track mainline from London to the South West.
If you do get going with FB, explore the groups - you'll be surprised by what niche interests are catered for! 
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I had exactly the same thing happen to me. So f*** em, Zuckerberg can kiss my hairy backside
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Happiness will never come to those who fail to appreciate what they already have. -Anon
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I got stuck on row 3. Took a long time to come up with row 4! 
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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(See if you can guess the analogy here to other recent discussions.)
The dancing robots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn3KWM1kuAw
The company that produced that and thier philosophy of "Changing your idea of what robots can do".
Boston Dynamics | Changing Your Idea of What Robots Can Do[^]
So of course that means that robots are just around the corner right? They will be running our lives in just a couple of years. Driving our cars, delivering our groceries, etc.
And certainly eliminating millions of jobs.
Right?
But of course the reality is that the above took "months" to pull off.
https://spectrum.ieee.org/how-boston-dynamics-taught-its-robots-to-dance#toggle-gdpr
"So, a lot of time, months, we spent thinking about the dance and composing the motions and iterating in simulation."
Not to mention the failures which the article also discusses. Those of course are not in the video.
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cool. Had seen this long ago, but I didn't appreciate it at the time. Ignorant.
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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So, bought an HP Envy printer, not so much by choice but needed it that day, and didn't want to pay a fortune for it since it is in a second location where it isn't used much. It came with a free subscription to instant ink and in a moment of stupidity, I signed up for it. Mostly because I was thinking these cartridges will dry out before they are empty.
Fastforward 6 months and here is an email from HP (emphasis added):
Hi Michael,
Your free trial of HP Instant Ink for your HP ENVY 6458e All-in-One Printer will be ending on 24 February 2023. We want to make sure you have a seamless transition to your subscription plan.
Time is running out! Finish your subscription account today!
• Add a payment method today, so you can continue printing with the subscription ink cartridges after your trial ends.
• You can always change or cancel your plan anytime from your dashboard.
•IMPORTANT! If you do not provide a payment method, your subscription cartridges will no longer work after your trial ends.
I've printed 148 pages in 6 months, 40 of which were special and I could have waited to print them on my Canon at home. My options are to pay $12/yr to print 10 pages per month, or $48/yr to print 50. Or spend around $35 and buy new cartridges and throw out perfectly good ones.
The option I'm really considering is to buy a new Canon for around $140, take the HP outside, use my Sawzall and cut it into about 5 pieces and send it to the CEO of HP.
I know the cost effective option is to just pay the ransom, but it's really a matter of principle as I will never buy anything from HP again, and that includes a potential tens of thousands of dollars for work.
I have a week, so I'll stew on it for a while.
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We had bought a $99 HP for home-office use. I was trying to get it to print but the drivers could only be installed if you installed the HP Ink Subscription.
I boxed it back up, returned it to Target and ordered a Epson epson wf-2850 for $119.
4 separate ink cartridges can be replaced quite inexpensively
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