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trønderen wrote:
A great argument for any arbitrary limitation (when you don't have any other good justification).


I am old but not old enough to have worked on some of the very first OSes which then lead to the PC OSes.

I do know that PC/MS-DOS did not allow spaces in names.
I also know that using spaces in command lines (Unix, linux, MS/PC-DOS, early windows) either did not support spaces in arguments at all or required special handling. From that it follows that the possibility exists that file/directory names with spaces would not have been ideal.

trønderen wrote:
No, forbidding spaces "must" not be a restriction


I didn't say that.

trønderen wrote:
to make the programming easier for themselves.


No idea what your life is like but in my life I work for businesses. And the goal is to produce applications that meet many of the needs and desires of customers. But only when it is cost effective to do so. So even if one customer wants something specific unless they are willing to pay for exactly that (and that almost never happens) and unless it does not unduly impact the maintenance (ongoing cost) and other customers they do not get it.

I have seen not indication that that has not been true for far longer than 30 years.

trønderen wrote:
I am really happy that the DOS/Windows file system designers made that deliberate design decision.


Just so you know Microsoft bought (licensed) an operating system when IBM approached them initially for their BASIC language to meet the requested needs of IBM. So certainly not Microsoft's fault.

trønderen wrote:
Will you accept that the Asians have the same attitude towards Latin script in file names? You won't even accept my Norwegian file names and URLs, is that so?


That has nothing to do with what I said. Seems like you are even trying to denigrate me.

I have created and supported applications that are used all over the world. In Japan. In Korea. In Europe. Not sure about Norway but certainly in France, Germany, Italy and Finland. Even in Russian although I don't think we actually did an install there.


trønderen wrote:
We cannot provide the user with what (s)he wants/needs, because it would reduce our chances of winning the performance race.


Another statement that makes me wonder if you work in business or academics.

Businesses do not exist to meet the needs/desires of customers. They exist to make money. Companies that don't make money do not survive. Every addition, even if it is a need/desire of customer(s) costs money. Both to implement it and to maintain it.

Yes performance is important. It is something that customers always complain about (when complex applications are involved). And it is something that marketing and sales promotes all the time.

trønderen wrote:
Not too many years ago, every single language for which a written form was defined could fit all their characters into a single UTF-16 code.


See prior comment. I have written and supported applications that run all over the world. I have led initiatives to make large applications multi-lingual.

So yes I am quite familiar with both what Unicode allows and what it costs to implement, support and maintain.

trønderen wrote:
So you will not prepare for porting your application to other cultures


You apparently did not understand what I was referring to.

In large applications there will be character data that is internal to the application. It will never be exposed to users.

It has nothing to do with multi-language support.

There are two other types of character data.
1. Application data which is exposed to customers. Such as a column header on a report. Or a user error message. This is the category where localization of language support is needed and in its easiest form.
2. Customer entered data. Such as a the name of a street or a user comment. This is the category where the concept of localization of language becomes tenuous because something that is entered in France can only be displayed as is in Japan.
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