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GeneralRe: You love the sound of vinyl but insist on High Quality (CD quality) Pin
PIEBALDconsult22-Sep-22 7:42
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trønderen22-Sep-22 9:27
trønderen22-Sep-22 9:27 
HiFi fans are crazy. Vinyl/analog fans are the loonies among the crazy.

I'll give those analog guys one digit (i.e. thumb), though: High quality digital sound requires that there is no clipping! Digital clipping is terrible. Clipping does occur in analog circuits as well, but in a much more gradual way - especially with tubes, as opposed to transistors. The audible effect is not quite as bad as in the digital world. Maybe it is, if you drive a tube amp into the same amount of clipping, percentage wise, but with a given sharp peak in the input signal, the measured clipping will be lower - the amp will be able to partially follow the signal, rather than cut it off abruptly.

An old story:
When I was a high school exchange student in the US in the 1970s, I lived with a family where the father had been a soldier in the Korean war, as a radio man. His patrol was locked in by an enclave of enemy troops, in a location where their radio was not able to make contact with the headquarter to request support. But they managed to modify the voltage regulator to provide twice the rated anode voltage to the final transmitter stages, raising the output signal so much that they managed to get through to the headquarter, and enforcements were sent to rescue them.

My host family father was a radio engineer for the rest of his life, but he never really became friends with transistors. His life was saved by tubes, because they can (for a short time) be run far beyond their ratings. He always maintained that if their equipment back then had been transistorized, any similar attempt to push the transmitter beyond limits would have burnt the power transistors off immediately, and they wound not have survived.

There are close parallels between tube/transistor and analog/digital. My idea is that if you really want the benefit of analog 'soft clipping', doing analog on transistors is a hybrid, a bastard. Proper analog sound requires the 'soft' headroom provided by tubes.

I do not own any tube amp. I will never get myself one. But I feel sort of regard for those analog fans who insist on tube technology throughout. It makes me think than maybe they listen with their ears, not by the specs.
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