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Since the Soapbox is closed I am not entering the War on Python, on either side...
But I was referring to your specific complaint&blame regarding the micropython toolchain forking up your code. That is clearly a micropython blunder. Anyway, what happened to all your praise for this Gabor-dude, he appears to fancy the Python-concept?
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Well, he's not the one that wrote the build scripts, and I'm going to be charitable and assume the Micropython bindings were someone else's contribution.
I blame Python. Always Python because the language should not exist, and were it not for it, MicroPython would not exist, and without that my build issues would go away.
Basically Python is why I'm such an ardent proponent of birth control. One condom could have prevented this.
Edit: Yeah this isn't soapbox, and here I am ranting. Shame on me.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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honey the codewitch wrote: When you make whitespace part of your program, it means part of your source code is invisible.
Anyone that stupid should not be allowed near a computer.
Amen !
ยซThe mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindledยป Plutarch
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honey the codewitch wrote: When you make whitespace part of your program, it means part of your source code is invisible
The first time some whippersnapper showed me that I vowed never to touch it. The bank decided to use Python extensively, I retired.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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Python used to be actually great in the 2.x days when Guido used to be the benevolent leader. Somewhere down the line, I don't know what happened but they lost the track along the 3.x path. No doubt, Python has a lot of mind-blowing stuff like nltk, django, flask, etc. but that's all thanks to the ecosystem! Core python has only gotten slower and slower since 3.x without getting any benefits in exchange for that slowness.
There is a lot of scope in that dynamic language though. With some effort, they can probably make it perform on par with at least PHP or Java, if not C#.
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I disagree.
Programs that have invisible source code belong in the trash.
Python programs require invisible source code.
Therefore Python belongs in the trash.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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honey the codewitch wrote: Programs that have invisible source code belong in the trash.
It all depends on the design and robustness of the language or runtime though. Java web programming, for example, sits on many layers of invisible code such as JVM, Servlets, J2EE/JSP, Spring, etc. and yet it performs amazingly fast and used throughout the enterprise! By your logic, it must be pathetically slow due to these layers and dumped into trash by now.
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It's like you didn't even read what I wrote. So I'll try again.
I don't care about the speed of python.
I care about INVISIBLE SOURCE CODE. Source code that you cannot see. Do you understand the concept? Such source code belongs in the trash, because it's unmaintainable because you cannot see it with your eyes.
Similarly languages that *require* source code that you cannot see with your eyes (read: invisible source code) belong in the trash as well.
Edit: I think I get where you misunderstand me. I didn't say anything about 3rd party libraries. I mean whitespace. Significant whitespace = invisible source code.
When you make whitespace part of your program, it means part of your source code is invisible.
Edit 2: I'm sorry I was hostile. I'm in an awful mood right now and probably shouldn't be here.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
modified 14-Sep-22 12:20pm.
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Python is a snake. A snake that can strangle you to death.
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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I complained the other day on CodeProject that Visual Studio was running my code generator twice (and caused naming conflict since the same class was added twice to the project) and then.. bingo! 3 days later a VisualStudio update fixed the problem!
All hail CodeProject!   ![Jig | [Dance]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/jig.gif)
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Squeaky wheel gets the oil.
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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#Worldle #236 1/6 (100%)
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https://worldle.teuteuf.fr
Not the toughest one I've seen
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Not the easiest either, for me: I had to guess to get a direction for the first one:
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It has a bit that hasn't been counted as it's for a while now, and is probably disputed depending on where you are ...
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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#Worldle #236 3/6 (100%)
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should have recognized it right off
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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Yeah, so should I - I blame the inclusion of Crimea in their image confusing me.
I might agree that Crimea should be part of Ukraine, but that would get political, like if they put up Tibet one day ...
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming โWow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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