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Jalapeno Bob wrote: My hobby is developing software for my own use. Some of it is actually useful Maybe it could be useful for others as well! Try selling it, to finance your new computer!
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Do you build a completely new PC each time, or do you upgrade parts in between?
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Mostly I try to order exactly what I need to work from. Once in a while. over time. A person has given me something that is not quite what I need/want then I do some upgrading.
Case in Point.
Current work supplied desktop and lappy are more than good enough because they asked me what I needed before I started.
At home computer for freelancing was a hand over from a gamer. I upgraded the RAM and Harddrives but left everything else the same. Imagine that.
and yes I know the question says primary dev machine. But in my case I really do have 2 primary machines.
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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Answered: for basic things, but now I think of it that was a lie, I once replaced the video cable of a HP laptop.
Something I hope never have to do again, it was a horrible experience, although I replaced the cable with much blood sweat and tears, only a few weeks later another component of the laptop broke down, and I had to purchase a new laptop, aaaaarrrrrgggghhhh
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Reminds me of when I brought a well used car to the mandatory bi-annual check: The guy looking over car was highly impressed: It was completely worn down in every sense, yet it was fully operational! He told me that when n this breaks down (highly likely) and I fix it, that will follow soon after, and then this and that and ...
His advice was that I take the car behind the barn and shoot it. I did.
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Coincidentally, I sold my old Skoda last week that was fully functional, but had 185000 km on the counter. The only problem I had with this car was a blown fuse that the Skoda dealer replaced for free
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I don't know anything about hardware
It's safer, easier and probably cheaper to just replace the whole thing every now and then.
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Wow. it's a cinch only you knows what's going on in there
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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I was just trying to scare Sander.
That's from the movie Pi.
Here's my actual computer[^]
If you'll pardon the mess. That was when I was putting it together and testing it on the floor at my bench, which is pretty messy most of the time.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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Gamer! Looks like the 900 model computer case?
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
modified 6-Jun-22 17:06pm.
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Whoops, I totally misread you. It's a Thermaltake Level 20VT. I don't know if I'd call it a gamer case, so much as a trendy open chassis, apple-like case
Not really. Although I can see why you'd say that. I do buy barebones gaming systems as dev workstations because they usually have good build quality, and great performance for good money. It's the best value I've found in terms of getting a rocking machine that can do double duty as a dev server.
The fans in this machine are already lit because they came that way when I bought the bare unit. This isn't the original case, but I just scalped the fans from the old setup it came with.
The guts were from a barebones system
This was what I bought to begin with, and where the fans came from.
CUKUSA Mantis[^]
I've since replaced the keyboard, the system drive (NVMe), added another hard drive (HDD), the power supply, and the case. I've also added a video card because I develop mods for a particular game - but that's coding too. Also to play with OpenCL and such.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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Understood. What sort of motherboard are you using? I do share your philosophy on buying systems. I sometimes, build up from case and reuse other gear but I also get lazy and spend more on a more complete system. Gaming systems are sometime the best to start with. They do not need to be fully tricked out but with good basics like cooling, fans, etc.
https://cukusa.com/checkout/cart/[^]
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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The mobo is a Micro-ATX ASUS Prime A520M-K. It's last gen because I bought it right before the roll over - i needed a machine or I would have waited a couple of months.
CUKUSA is good stuff, although if you want their deals, look for their gear on amazon. You can't customize their "specials" but they've got a good variety for sale on there.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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Nice one Sigourney.
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Sander Rossel wrote: It's safer, easier and probably cheaper to just replace the whole thing every now and then. Safer? I don't know of anyone getting hurt building a PC, unless they dropped it on their foot. Back in the 90's, the IBM model 70's were dangerous, as they had cast iron in the case to make them heavier.
Cheaper? That is a mixed bag. I rarely find a PC that contains everything I want, so an off-the-shelf purchase means either paying more than I want, or settling for at least one lesser component. When shopping for components, I look for what I want at the best price, and get something satisfactory on all points.
The actual assembly of parts is easy enough -- anyone who can read can do it. Figuring out what to buy? THAT is not easy! It used to be that assembly was hard while buying (choosing parts) was easy, but that has reversed.
A non-IT acquaintance asked me why all IT people don't build their own computers, and had trouble understanding that (like everything else) it's a specific skill set and not everyone has it, nor does everyone want it.
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BryanFazekas wrote: I don't know of anyone getting hurt building a PC, unless they dropped it on their foot. Maybe you won't get hurt, but if you are careless, your PC might. I once opened my PC case to plug in another hard disk, after having turned the power switch off. When I bent over the opened PC case, my keyring slipped out of my pocket, down on the, mainboard. That's how I learned that the PS main switch does not turn off all the power to the mainboard. The power that is still maintained is enough to make significance damage, if shortcut to the proper places. My billfold definitely felt the electric shock.
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BryanFazekas wrote: Safer? Not for me, for the PC, like trønderen said
BryanFazekas wrote: Cheaper? That is a mixed bag. Not if you factor in the time you've lost picking parts, assembling the thing, cursing...
Time is money, and assembling your own is definitely the more time consuming.
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The only one thing is fixed that is "Change" (परिवर्तन - परिवर्तन सृष्टि का नियम है)
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this is the way. Though I end up replacing all the components with the exception of case, monitor, disks and peripherals. And I'm not so sure about case either, in the last 6 years there have been many cases designed for better cooling and for AIOs, and mine isn't.
GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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My big problem with cases is the motherboard mounts vertically in most of them, leading to potential "GPU sag" when you have a big heavy card that runs hot.
I searched high and low for a nice form factor - low profile enough that it wasn't going to take up a ton of space, and where I could mount a mini-ATX mobo horizontally.
Thermaltake Level 20 VT[^]
It's awesome. All glass, so heavy as sin - open air chassis actually - the glass is air gapped over the frame. You put the fans almost against the glass, blowing toward the glass creating positive pressure out the gapped sides of the glass to prevent dust from getting in. The intake fan is on the FRONT and screened so you can actually see when it gets dusty - win!
The reviews say it's got cooling issues. NONSENSE. I run a RTX 2080ti, Ryzen 7 4750G, with a 1000watt PSU, two sticks of RAM, and two HDDs (plus my NVMe) all on air and I've never even close to redlined the thing.
I highly recommend this chassis, unless you need a full size ATX. This chassis will fit a full size video card - mine is - actually fit it better than my tower did because there's more vertical clearance above the card for the cabling.
You'll need to buy 1x140mm, and 4x120mm fans if you'll be running on air. 1x220mm is included, front mounted.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
modified 6-Jun-22 21:05pm.
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