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Jalapeno Bob19-May-22 8:36
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Andreas Mertens20-May-22 3:12
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I totally understand your point. But there are a lot of levels of bureaucracy here, and who can talk to whom.

In this one particular case I had already been working with some of the business users as to requirements, and had provided them with a proof of concept to play with and get feedback. But now, for the last two weeks I had been requesting a signoff on the POC so we could proceed with the final product. And this was the scrum master's responsibility. Just a simple Yes or No, and if no I would have worked further with the business users to revise the design.

For the last two weeks I would be asked at our virtual standup what the status was for this project. I would reply each time that I was awaiting signoff. The scrumaster said he would take care of this. Finally after two week of this he said he would set up a meeting. Of course he set up a demo of the app - despite the fact that the usershad all been playing with this for some time. And no word on getting a signoff. That is when I took over with this 2 1/2 hour meeti g to get this all done.

I don't mind working with the users, getting requirements, etc. I've been working as a contractor/consultant for 15+ years, and I understand the need to wear many hats. But now I am working as a contractor within a team and you expect everyone to do their part.

At least I got the job done, got the final signoff and was able to move this to forward. Still lots of testing to do, and a few functional tweaks.

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