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Paul Sanders (the other one) wrote: There's something wrong with BLM and LGBTQ+?
There is when they start looting the place, or when 6-year olds get a sex change, or when (biological) men win women's sports, or when (biological) men get access to women's prisons or women's shelter, or when people get fired for calling it out.
Other than that, absolutely not.
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[Message tweaked and reposted, because new sig]
OK, there might be something in that, but those are extremes, that's not what the movement is really about. Homophobia still exists.
And to lump BLM into the same category does not sit well with me. I think a lot of people hope that George Floyd didn't die in vain. I certainly do.
Paul Sanders
http://www.alpinesoft.co.uk
"Life is a minestrone" - sure, but what does that actually mean? Oh wait, I've got it. It means it's full of different bits and you have to savour them all. And so you do.
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Sure, I also fully support feminism.
What I don't support are the feminazis who aren't pro-equal rights, but anti-men.
The same goes for BLM and LGBTQ+, I fully support equal rights for anyone.
What I don't support are the people who abuse these movements and who shout the loudest (which, unfortunately, have become synonymous with the movements).
People of color can be racist and I should be able to say so without being called a racist myself.
Black people are more likely to commit a crime, that's statistics and not racism (I'm not talking about the problems leading to these statistics, which may well be racism).
When we can't call out these facts in fear of being demonized or canceled, we can't solve their underlying problems.
The result is that the whole BLM movement has been reduced to "black person good, white person bad" (or the opposite, when you don't agree).
Or even "white straight male bad, anything else good."
Unfortunately, these movements, be they "left" or "right", are currently polarizing and unconstructive.
The same goes for the terms "left" and "right", by the way.
You're either the one or the other, there's barely an in-between anymore.
Platforms such as Facebook and Twitter have greatly helped in polarizing these movements, yet they change society as a whole.
That's why you really should care whose behind these platforms even when you don't have an account.
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M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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I do care. I didn't say that I didn't. I don't like the platforms any more than you do.
Black people are more likely to commit a crime
I think that's more to do with social deprivation than ethnicity, don't you?
[Edit] Still fiddling about with my sig. I'll get it right eventually.
Paul Sanders.
"Life is a minestrone" - sure, but what does that actually mean? Oh wait, I get it. It means it's full of different bits and you have to savour them all. And so you do.
And if you don't mind, a quick plug for my little one-man business. Follow the link if you're interested in ripping your vinyl collection: www.alpinesoft.co.uk.
-- modified 26-Apr-22 12:12pm.
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Paul Sanders (the other one) wrote: I think that's more to do with social deprivation than ethnicity, don't you?
I do, but they're still black and not Asian, Arab or European.
I'm not sure about the crime statistics of Hispanics, but they may be higher or lower too.
So it has something to do with being black (and/or Hispanic).
Do they face more racism? Do they a different kind of racism? Could it be "hood" culture after all? If so, why and how do you fix it (better education, more engaged police?)?
Me, as a white person, saying black crime could be cultural would probably get me gutted on Twitter, but I know of some black people saying this is true and violence (against police) is glorified in some black neighborhoods.
Are police targeting black people because they think they're a bunch of stupid monkey's (most blatant racism I could think of) or are they targeting black people because of statistics?
If it's the former you have a racism issue, if it's the latter are the statistics keeping themselves high? (it's probably a bit of both, but fixing the latter could help solving the former).
If you want to solve the problem, you have to be able to question these things.
It's not an easy subject, but being butthurt every time someone says the word "black" is not going to help.
I'd rather see BLM funding socio-demographic research and better education for black people and/or black neighborhoods.
Maybe even set up some black-white integration programs if that's a solution (getting black people into white neighborhoods, getting white people into black neighborhoods).
Come up with programs, research, solutions, get people to rally to your cause by using good arguments and getting them involved (not by making every white person a common enemy).
Instead, I read about them rioting and even ruining legit black business owners and one of the key figured behind BLM using funds to buy an $8 million house.
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Instead, I read about ... one of the key figures behind BLM using funds to buy an $8 million house.
That's an interesting one, I missed that. I guess there are scoundrels everywhere. Shame it brings the movement into disrepute.
And if anyone shoots you down for using the word 'black' - provided it's done in a neutral way of course - I would just ignore them, they're way off base. It's a perfectly acceptable way to describe the colour of a person's skin, if that's what you're trying to do, and I've heard a number of public figures I respect doing exactly that. Hell, black people themselves do it - as in BLM ofc!
So are we done with this now? I think everyone else has gone off to watch the snooker. But it was good to discuss it, even if this forum is not quite the right place for it.
Paul Sanders.
"Life is a minestrone" - sure, but what does that actually mean? Oh wait, I get it. It means it's full of different bits and you have to savour them all. And so you do.
And if you don't mind, a quick plug for my little one-man business. Follow the link if you're interested in ripping your vinyl collection: www.alpinesoft.co.uk.
modified 27-Apr-22 3:14am.
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100% agreed. Would be >100% if possible. I am unapologetically old school when it comes to believing that the government, including the public school system, needs to stay in its lane. Corporations need to stop making asinine decisions that alienate half of their customer base. Special groups need to stop getting bowed down to out of fear. Our colleges and universities need to stop being institutions of socialist propaganda. And finally, (and back on topic), the ultra-liberal movement that espouses "free speech", but has a cow when someone uses free speech to take a stand against what THEY believe, THAT movement needs to be squashed like a bug, and the whole world brought back into reality by social platforms that actually embrace free speech. Say what you want about Elon, but he is indeed a free speech advocate.
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I think it's important to break this down.
Protesters protest, it is their function. I would argue that protesting, when properly conducted, is not immoral, regardless of the laws of any given country. Looters loot... and destroy stuff, hurt people, etc. Yes, I am overloading "looter" with lots of negative behavior. Protesters are not looters, and looters are not protesters. Looters are taking advantage of the event, not joining it.
Okay, let's say a person shows up to protest, but decides they want a new TV for free, at that moment, they are no longer a protester, but a looter. Then, the full force of law enforcement should take effect. Firing tear gas into the crowd of protesters has absolutely no effect on the looters, but it will piss off the protesters. Whether that provocation is deliberate or not, it is still provocation that does not solve the issue of looting.
Honestly, I could not care less about most sports. It seems to me that each sport requires such specific physicality that we're getting weird emergence at the end of the bell curve.
A person who puts on a dress in order to attack women is a predator, and should be dealt with accordingly. A woman trapped in a man's body, regardless of their state of transition, is simply trying to be who they are and not get beaten to death in the process. Two different people that, on the surface, look the same. We need to dig deeper in order to stop the predators and protect the persecuted.
This is bad typing.
It's no wonder the system keeps crashing because the devs keep conflating smallints with strings. Some of them like it that way, but it's mostly because the manager, who has never learned to code but has some pull, put it in the design documents and demands that it be so. And then blames the strings for the broken system.
Culture reflects the environment. When the environment is a cage*, however hidden or subtle, the culture will reflect desperation, destruction and despair.
* or a trap.
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Good point. It may not affect me directly, but if an entire electorate is being duped, I get dragged in.  I guess there' no escaping it - which is a pretty depressing thought! 
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What is twitter?
Nothing succeeds like a budgie without teeth.
To err is human, to arr is pirate.
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A collection of twits 
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Why did he pay so much for it?
Doesn't he know you can download the app for free.
Nothing succeeds like a budgie without teeth.
To err is human, to arr is pirate.
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I here that this tweet explains it: When you pay $44 billion ...[^]
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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I would strongly suggest that you remove the link to your company from your signature before someone decides you are just a spammer and your account closes ...
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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CP can do what they like, I don't care. And I'm no spammer, thank you very much. I've been on here for several years and I don't need the likes of you to tell me what to do. You might not be aware of me because I'm not usually active in the lounge, but that's your problem, not mine. I've even contributed a couple of articles, if you had taken the trouble to look, although I'm not particularly proud of EZUTF. My coding skills have improved significantly since then.
Paul Sanders
http://www.alpinesoft.co.uk
"Life is a minestrone" - sure, but what does that actually mean? Oh wait, I've got it. It means it's full of different bits and you have to savour them all. And so you do.
modified 26-Apr-22 7:27am.
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OK Griff, tweaked my sig. Probably you meant well, but the way you phrased it pushed all my buttons, sorry.
Paul Sanders
http://www.alpinesoft.co.uk
"Life is a minestrone" - sure, but what does that actually mean? Oh wait, I've got it. It means it's full of different bits and you have to savour them all. And so you do.
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Sorry if I pushed your buttons, that wasn't my intention.
I was trying to bring you attention to this: Spam and Abuse Watch Discussion Boards[^] which is where accounts which post site links go to die. Most of them post more links that you, but one is often enough.
It is pretty likely that your sig link is going to push other people's buttons - and that you account would be added to that list. And then it would in all likelihood close.
Because it is very close to spam: you are "an independent Windows and Mac developer working from home" so adding your URL to every message you post is going to look like spam to quite a lot of trigger-happy members, particularly if they notice the "buy" button on the menu bar ...
I think we need some official clarification:
@Sean-Ewington
Can you advise please?
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Thanks Griff, I appreciate the effort to communicate more clearly, and now that I've calmed down a bit I can see that you have a point. You know the way the community here works much better than I do so I should listen to you, and I certainly don't want to offend anyone or come across as some sort of self-serving jerk.
So I've added some context to that link (which I should have done a long time ago). Hopefully, that will give a better impression, let me know what you think. I don't see that including the link per-se is an issue, and I don't feel at all guilty for charging money for software I put a lot of time and passion into. It does what it sets out to do and I have a lot of happy users. And now that people know what the link is actually there for, they can ignore it if they have no interest.
Paul Sanders.
"Life is a minestrone" - sure, but what does that actually mean? Oh wait, I've got it. It means it's full of different bits and you have to savour them all. And so you do.
And if you don't mind a bit of shameless self-promotion, my little one-man business. Follow the link if you're interested in ripping your vinyl collection: www.alpinesoft.co.uk.
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... and I see that account is gone, good riddance.
Paul Sanders.
"Life is a minestrone" - sure, but what does that actually mean? Oh wait, I've got it. It means it's full of different bits and you have to savour them all. And so you do.
And if you don't mind a bit of shameless self-promotion, my little one-man business. Follow the link if you're interested in ripping your vinyl collection: www.alpinesoft.co.uk.
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Oh, and just to say (sorry to pepper you with replies!), I've been something of a 'lurker' up to now but I plan to participate a bit more actively in future. In particular, I will follow a couple of areas in which I have some expertise to see if I can make a contribution there.
You gave me a wakeup call Griff, and that's never a bad thing.
Paul Sanders.
"Life is a minestrone" - sure, but what does that actually mean? Oh wait, I've got it. It means it's full of different bits and you have to savour them all. And so you do.
And if you don't mind a bit of shameless self-promotion, my little one-man business. Follow the link if you're interested in ripping your vinyl collection: www.alpinesoft.co.uk.
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I look forward to seeing your stuff!
If it helps ease you in gently, then Tips were added to Articles since your 2007 contributions, which are a "simpler", "shorter" article which takes a lot less to prepare (or at least for me it does!)
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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