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The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals may have set an important precedent in the tech world. The court has essentially concluded that “Data Scraping” is not hacking. Breaking news: Sanity prevails.
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Kent Sharkey wrote: Breaking news: Sanity prevails.
Are you sure? Looking at what politicians are doing or trying to do in many countries regarding Net and Data...  
M.D.V. 
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I'd rather cheer for one tiny sane step and ignore all the negative 
TTFN - Kent
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I like your optimism... 
Be careful, some people could confuse it with naivety   
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Otherwise, couldn't just looking at a web page be considered data scraping? My eyes took information off the screen and into my brain. If you display it in public, I'm thinking it's fair game.
Unless of course, you copyright every single web page.
I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.
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- I think that the issue is one of quantity. There is no way that your Mk. 1 brain + eyeballs can reliably "scrape" a significant amount of data from a site like LinkedIn. At least, not enough for you to open a competing service.
- If you look at the tiny print at the bottom of many Internet pages, you will find a copyright.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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#1 would preclude the use of technology to add value to any legal activity.
#2 would be a way to prevent it, but the question is whether the contents can be protected by copyright, which usually covers an original work. I doubt that a LinkedIn profile, for example, qualifies.
Probably the easiest way to do this is to only display the data to logged in accounts. And when opening an account, to have the user agreement include a prohibition on scraping.
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Greg Utas wrote: Probably the easiest way to do this is to only display the data to logged in accounts.
As I understand it, part of the problem is that LinkedIn wanted to have their cake and eat it - both be indexable by Google, and disallow "scraping". Google will not index data behind paywalls, password protection, etc.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Kent Sharkey wrote: Sanity prevails.
And on the Left Coast, too! 
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Kent Sharkey wrote: Breaking news: Sanity prevails.
Disagree. Scraping not being a crime was the right call, but keeping the injunction saying MS isn't allowed to attempt to block it insane.
The ruling by the US Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit drew a distinction between data that is password-protected and data that is publicly available. That means hiQ Labs—a data analytics company that uses automated technology to scrape information from public LinkedIn profiles—can continue accessing LinkedIn data, a three-judge panel at the appeals court ruled:
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
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"Disagree. Scraping not being a crime was the right call, but keeping the injunction saying MS isn't allowed to attempt to block it insane."
Yes, IMHO I think it's a gray way (not black, but not white too), and sources can allow/deny scraping...
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We evolve C# to improve your development productivity, the resiliency of your applications in production, performance and support for new features. How long is a raw string?
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The length of a rubber band plus the terminating NUL.
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A raw rubber band, or cooked?
TTFN - Kent
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Kent Sharkey wrote: A raw rubber band, or cook...? AAAAAARRRRRGGGGG (disappearing under the bridge)
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MIT team also designed 3D-printed DIY rheometer for at-home or classroom experiments. It's magnets, isn't it?
I think I know who will win the Ig Noble for Engineering this year.
"The failure strain of Oreo creme is about the same as that observed in foie gras or crumbly Romano or Old Amsterdam cheese, per the authors, while the failure stress is about the same as soft Havarti or mozzarella cheese—and double that of cream cheese or peanut butter." Bring this up at you next party while standing at the cheese platter! Be the hit of the event!
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Kent Sharkey wrote: Be the target of the hits in of the event!
FTFY
M.D.V.
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That really takes the biscuit!
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I see a bag of Oreos being consumed in the near future to try to replicate this research.
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Microsoft's Mads Kristensen -- Visual Studio developer and extensions author extraordinaire -- is asking his 30,000-plus Twitter followers what features they would like for Visual Studio 2022. "I want the works. I want the whole works! Presents and prizes, and sweets and surprises of all shapes and sizes"
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Calm down Veruka.
I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.
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PC power supply standards change so slowly, the last major revision to Intel’s ATX power supply guide is likely older than your car, your refrigerator, or your children. In case you want the power (in the future)
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In matching behavior already provided by the GCC compiler, LLVM/Clang has landed "RandStruct" functionality to allow optionally randomizing the structure layout for C code. Roll D20 for heap allocation
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Hmmm,
I honestly don't see much value in RandStruct. I guess it's a decent address information disclosure mitigation when paired with ASLR.
The Linux crowd need to do something about sigreturn. I don't understand why you couldn't just randomize the entire Linux syscall table.
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Locutus is a software platform that makes it easy to create decentralized alternatives to today's centralized tech companies. These decentralized apps will be easy to use, scalable, and secured through cryptography. We are Locutus of code. Prepare to write decentralized apps.
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