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Hi,
I am hoping it is ok, to ask for 30 year old piece of software here, if not Admin Please Delete.
I have been working through a bucket list of things I wish I had done back in the 1990's. One of them is some coding with MASM and debugging with SoftICE.
Apparently there is a product called Magic CV (Magic CodeView) / Magic CVW (Magic CodeView for Windows 3.1?) that allow CodeView to be used with SoftICE for DOS.
I have looked on, and asked on a lot of retro software sites, including FaceBook, but it seems to be unobtainium.
And have even sent an email to the current owners (Microfocus) to ask if they could release the DOS version of SoftICE & Magic CV to the retro community.
But nothing.
Is anyone able to help?
Craig
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Why specifically do you want to use a thirty five year old product (it was released in 1988!) that is unlikely to run properly on a modern computer and OS?
If you want to use assembler code, then why not use a modern IDE to learn / develop it? MASM - Microsoft Docs[^] is included in Visual Studio, and that's freely available for individuals (select a version and download the Community Edition from Microsoft).
You'll get modern tools, with a larger support community when things go pear shaped ... 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Mate,
I have no interest in modern software. It is just my hobby, it is things that I never completed in the 1990's.
The projects are part of my bucket list.
Regards,
Craig
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I can understand that, but ... you are making things harder for yourself than you need them to be - by "fixing" on antique software to get the projects done, you make it harder to get teh fran=mework you need
a) installed
and
b) to run at all! 
And when you do, you are relying on the increasingly decrepit memories of those of us who used software back then to help you fix the gaps. And that makes your life less fun - and hobbies are supposed to be enjoyable, not frustrating for reasons outside your control.
I wish you all the luck you need, but you'd have an easier ride moving to modern software to achieve the same goals, in the same languages. Wouldn't you?
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Thank you I appreciate your concerns.
I understand that you want to guide me to an easier path, but this is just something I need to do. Thank you anyway.
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Hi,
I have all of the old NuMega debugging tools but I don't know if I have Magic CV. Are you sure that you need it? The product was just a loader for Microsoft Codeview[^]. I've got dozens of old versions of Codeview. You can get it simply by installing the old 16-bit versions of Visual C++ or masm. I believe you would need the one that was included with Masm 5.1 (which I think was the same version included in Magic CV).
Check and see if Codeview is in this old installer:
Microsoft Macro Assembler 5.1[^]
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Randor,
I have the old version(s) of CodeView and SoftICE as well, just not the Magic CV.
There are some old DOS drivers that I have always wanted create and others that I wanted to see how they worked.
Turbo Debugger, has the ability to debug a driver, but CV doesn't. Well I couldn't see it anyway.
But bottom line, I would just prefer to stay in CV, DOS 6.x and Win 3.1 where I have put the hours in to, rather than swapping between TD and CV.
I would really appreciate it if you could some how forward me the Magic CV and Magic CVW if you have it.
My projects may only be interesting to me, and that's ok, It is a bucket list hobby.
Regards,
Craig
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Mate,
I would really appreciate it if you could upload the Magic CV to Internet Archive/Winworld or BetaArchive, if you have it.
Or any other old software.
I think it is important to preserve such things, but also there are people like myself, that just enjoy old software.
Kind regards,
Craig
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today I played around with toolstripcontainer on windows Form application.
I feel this component is not so useful.
anybody can share some experiences?
diligent hands rule....
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I use it, but not via the Visual Studio generated code. I find the restrictions too limiting. Instead, I create a toolstripcontainer and add my toolstrip controls and code.
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thanks for concurrence.
diligent hands rule....
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the vertical "camera view" type of things shows in my use case, but I used sliding panel to implement it and it is much simpler for me.
diligent hands rule....
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I tried it when I was dynamically creating and merging toolbars, but also didn't find it very useful. You can merge toolbars into each other.
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Hi All,
Just to let you know the mad fools I work for have got me to run a design review for a mission critical update to an established product. Who, me run a design review? I find it worrying that I am trusted to this extent being a new guy. Mind you I have not suffered from some testing I did for Video Processors that are used in Air Traffic Control. So thats good but... 
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Hmmm, its March! 
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Is this a design review or a code inspection?
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I'm a Hardware guy now, design review of changes to a PCB (FPGA went obselete & the JTAG programming port was removed from the update), which naffed up the auto programming and test system.
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I know very little about hardware design, but doesn't removing a JTAG port make it far more difficult to diagnose or debug the hardware?!
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I'd like to learn Rust.
The first thing I want to do is just learn enough to be able to read it. I'm kind of disappointed in its bastardization of the C language family style which makes it harder to absorb. It also seems to have some ... pythonisms? in it.
Still, I hear it's a solid language, but I'd like some good (hopefully free) online tutorials to get my feet wet.
Maybe after that a book, but I'm not there yet necessarily.
Does anyone have anything they recommend? I mean, I can just google, but I don't know what's "good".
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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Don't you have a horrible bug to fix?! Focus focus. 
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I'm trying to switch gears actually, because I've been hammering on it for too long.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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good idea switching gears it will to you
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