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pkfox wrote: They'll have darts and snooker next.
Not before someone can construct a pub with room for 50,000 spectators...
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Didn't they take a run at ballroom dancing one year?
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OriginalGriff wrote: Does anyone care about the Olympics?
I'll never get why anyone enjoys watching others doing sports at all, but only specific sports because we all like those, like we watch football, but not cricket, and only because "our" team plays because we don't like it enough to watch "other" teams even though it's the same activity.
And people also only watch during certain events, like the European or World Championships, or Olympics in this case, but any other time in that four period it's somehow not fun watching while it's still the same activity.
Oh yeah, and people only watch men because even a bad men's match is better than a good woman's match, except for some sports, like ice skating and swimming, because women are good at those (I guess?), or beach volleyball, which we don't really watch for the game anyway.
I'm having an even harder time getting why people would think "they" won when some individual, or group of individuals, somewhere on a field won from other individuals (I guess this feeling that I'm completely missing explains why people only watch "their" team and only during some events).
And the most bizarre of all is that people will actually riot and fight about this.
To me, there's absolutely no logic or rationale to be found, it's like mass hysteria.
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You like your music, its the same thing, different activity.
Besides, if my team loses it's because I didn't support them hard enough. If they win, I did my job and therefore am entitled to take full credit for the win.  And it makes me (no, not delusional) a hero* because I'm not getting paid for it.
* I don't use the term lightly.
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yacCarsten wrote: You like your music, its the same thing, different activity.
It's completely different.
Music effects the brain, not the same for anyone, but I love the music because of the music and not because of the people who make it (some do, I know) and I love it always.
I don't only like it when there's a Eurovision song festival and I don't only like it when "my" band plays.
Eurovision has little to do with music (although sometimes it's nice) and brings out that "football mentality" in people.
If you love football, I get it.
What I don't get is that you only love it when a specific team does it or only when they do it during a specific tournament.
And that you'd take wins or losses personally while you had no effect on the outcome.
yacCarsten wrote: Besides, if my team loses it's because I didn't support them hard enough. If they win, I did my job and therefore am entitled to take full credit for the win. And it makes me (no, not delusional) a hero* because I'm not getting paid for it.
I can't even tell if you're joking 
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I think the point was simply "We all have different interests", not that music and sports are comparable.
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musefan wrote: We all have different interests
And my point is that it doesn't seem to be an interest because while the activity remains the same, people are only interested at specific times, specific places or when specific people/teams play.
So it's not an interest, but some kind of hysteria.
I know a guy who only watches Formula 1 when Max Verstappen is racing.
He started watching when Max started racing, he even sets his alarm at night to watch Max race, but he said that if Max retired he wouldn't watch it anymore.
Makes no sense, whatsoever, he can't really explain it either, but he thinks it's some sort of Dutch pride.
In fact, I didn't hear a lot about F1 until Max Verstappen started racing and suddenly everyone was into F1.
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Sander Rossel wrote: So it's not an interest, but some kind of hysteria.
And that also applies to music for some people. Many will enjoy going to a music festival but then not even listen to music at home.
I don't think an interest has to be something you commit your waking life to... I think that would be more an obsession.
I don't like F1, so don't know much about it, but it makes sense that things become more interesting when you have a personal attachment to them.
Find horse racing boring? Stick a bet on and suddenly it's not so boring anymore?
Hate watching football? Oh, your best friend just signed for Liverpool FC, suddenly watching Liverpool play doesn't seem so bad anymore.
Personally I have an interest in lots of different things, for example I find most sports to be interesting. But I don't have the time to commit to them all as much as they may deserve. The lower priority ones will only get attention when it's a convenience for me.
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musefan wrote: Many will enjoy going to a music festival but then not even listen to music at home.
They go for the atmosphere and all the other things you can do at a festival.
I could even imagine going to a football match myself, just to see the arena, taste the atmosphere and experience the event.
But you don't get any of that by sitting on the couch at home and watching a live broadcast of the event (which festival go-ers generally don't do).
I get personal attachment, but I don't get how someone you don't know, but who just so happens to live in the same country as you (he was born in Belgium), can give you that personal attachment.
Some friends of mine played in a band, didn't particularly liked their music, but I never missed a show to show some support for my homies.
Also not the same as placing a bet, I could place a bet on any match if I think I could make some money and with my money invested the match could be very exciting indeed, but these people aren't betting.
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Sander Rossel wrote: but these people aren't betting.
Are they not? A different kind of bet perhaps.
Perhaps they gamble an amount of emotion into the games. The risk is they feel sad when the team loses, but the pay-off is the euphoria that comes from winning. The amount of sadness/happiness experienced will depend on the initial emotional stake.
Perhaps that is the same with your friend. The Dutch link was simply the excuse/justification for placing the bet. The waking up at stupid-o-clock to watch is the stake. The pay-off comes when the racer does well and your friend can be happy knowing it was worth the early start to watch that result.
Or maybe that's all just nonsense... people are weird and I will never fully understand any of them.
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musefan wrote: Or maybe that's all just nonsense... people are weird and I will never fully understand any of them.
And to think you almost had me convinced 
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The emoji is the closest to a tongue-in-check emoji I could think of.
A bit of an in-joke at work. When when of our teams win we congratulate the supporter on doing such a good job.
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I'd go for the  emoji, it even shows some tongue (out-of-cheek) 
Glad to see you're joking though
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I think it's an in-joke for most sports fans.
A couple of weeks ago a friend of mine approached me and said "I need to have a word with you..." because my team was rumoured to be trying to poach one of his teams best players.
Obviously there was no expectation that I was going to be able to do anything about it
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I'm with you completely - the Euro football was a classic example - in England all the team were heroes until they lost, then the people that missed penalties were subject to racial and verbal abuse on a platform called social media. I've never understood the "we won" brigade - they must believe that shouting and swearing at a TV makes a difference.
"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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The problem with the euros is that you get people supporting the team who don't even care about football - they are in it for the glory and nothing more. So it all blows up out of proportion.
People have this silly habit of not wanting to be left out of things.
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WHAT!? THE MOON IS NOT MADE OF CHEESE!? 
I'd like to discuss this opinion because it obviously is (now, am I joking or not?  )
I'm not sure what your point is though, whether I'm intelligent and everyone who doesn't agree with me is stupid or vice versa? 
I mean, this "sports hysteria" is a feeling people get, which I don't have and can't explain (or even imagine).
I'm aware that people aren't going to say "you're right, it doesn't make sense I don't like sports teams anymore", that would be something
And I probably have that kind of stuff too, we're not particularly logical creatures.
But the sports one always irks me as it's so huge and massive and you just can't get around it.
Even I had to watch a football match recently because I was somewhere and they put on football.
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Sorry for leaving an ambiguous post. I'd specifically thought of that video because I found it illuminating that people's attraction to sporting teams was surmised to be a consequence of the brain's ego and love for itself.
Never being attracted to playing or following team sports I've long found rabid football (for instance) supporters truly perplexing.
I already know (think!?) you're one of the brightest bunnies around. Wasn't going as far as to draw any conclusions about others.. I watched the video rather late at night the other week. It was just the touching on the subject of sport that made my mind remember it after reading your post.
Again, sorry for the ambiguity.
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I could have written that myself. My interest in professional sports evaporated by about eight or nine years of age.
The main draw - in reality - is the bonding with others who use "we" for the team as though they were really part of it. Thus, by memorizing statistics with what little brain they have available, they can discuss them and debate them with other like-minded vicarious "lovers".
Rather pathetic. Imagine if they put that much time, effort and attention into the actual world around them that has real impacts.
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They should return to the original set of sports which were intended to highlight warrior traits, which would essentially restrict the available sports to track/field events. Team and "style" sports do not belong.
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Yes, I agree, and in the classical attire of the time, but they should allow females to compete as well - in the same attire, of course! 
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With all the screaming about equality and allowing trans to compete in women's sports, there should be no "women"'s sports anymore, and everyone competes against everyone else. I mean, we're all about equality, right?
I have an idea for a new "sport" - underwater demolition. A swimmer must approach a target 500 meters away underwater, plant an explosive device, swim back, and detonate the device remotely. Points start at 100, with deductions being made every time the swimmer visibly breaks the surface of the water, for every minute it takes him/her to accomplish the task, and if the device does not detonate.
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