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You are right in every aspect of this except for one:
Those that believe these conspiracies always have, built into the fabric of the conspiracies, warnings about the false information given to attempt to disprove the conspiracy.
It's really a closed system. Version compatibility: closed minds.
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Sad but true. Your Einstein quote nails it. 
Also, (possibly?) from Mark Twain: "It’s Easier to Fool People Than to Convince Them That They Have Been Fooled"
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I think you have missed my point. 
NY Times has been found guilty of running many fake news stories. So, how can you possibly consider them true and factual. Same with WSJ, Fox News, and many others.
The point is that no news agency is true and factual (left, right, center, etc.). You have no way of knowing that your news source is telling you the truth.
We all want to believe we are being told the truth, and so we believe, to help us sleep at night, and to get through the day, but in the end, we are all being lied to.
Cheers. 
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Oh! I see how this works now! No, not really!  I genuinely thought that by providing links to a number of sources, (including the UK Government's technical document), it would be more convincing than your mate telling you they'd seen something on Farcebook, about the vaccine containing micro-tracking devices!
Of the 5 links I've provided, you pick one that you might be able to cast some doubt on. Yes, I'm sure every newspaper out there has, at some point in time, published a story that is untrue - including the NY Times. But, I'm struggling to see why they would lie about the Covid vaccine being safe!!!  No need to answer that. They're obviously in on it. See. I'm getting the hang of this now! 
Again, not really. I give up. I am more than happy for you to stand aside, whilst I go to the front of the queue to get my life-saving vaccine.
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I'm reminded of Jim Jones, David Koresh, Heaven's Gate, Simon Says.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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Koresh may have been a nutcase, but unlike the others, he and his followers were murdered by state goons.
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That concept, itself, fall into the category of conspiracy theories:
Checking in wikipedia:
Quote: the FBI resorted to pumping CS gas into the compound with the aid of an M728 Combat Engineer Vehicle, which was equipped with a battering ram. In the course of the advance, the Mount Carmel Center caught fire under circumstances that are still disputed today. Barricaded inside the building, 79 Branch Davidians perished in the ensuing blaze; 21 of these victims were children under the age of 16.
According to the FBI, Steve Schneider, Koresh's right-hand man, who "probably realized that he was dealing with a fraud," shot and killed Koresh and then committed suicide with the same gun. A second account gave a totally different story: Koresh, then 33, died of a gunshot wound to the head during the course of the fire. No one knows who killed him or if he killed himself. The medical examiner reported 20 people, including five children under the age of 14, had been shot, and a three-year-old had been stabbed in the chest.
In fact, who that survived, inside or out, knows how the fire started? I for one, taking the stabbed child as a rather blatant hint, that the fire was his own flavor of Kool Aid. Supporting this is the lifestyle that was accepted by his followers - zombies ready to obey their messiah. Any who survived from inside the compound are (if they even really saw) of obvious questionable reliability.
But - then - how will we ever really know?
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We'll probably never know, and it was probably gross criminal negliglence, not murder. But after tales of Iraqis yanking babies out of incubators and building WMDs, I'll fade the official explanation. It's almost like "We had to destroy the village to save it."
If you're looking to Wikipedia for an objective opinion on something controversial, forget it. When it comes such topics, it's no more reliable than any other source.
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Greg Utas wrote: If you're looking to Wikipedia for an objective opinion on something controversial, forget it. When it comes such topics, it's no more reliable than any other source.
I'll play devil's advocate:
If that what you believe then why bother with any of them? Just make up what you need to know and get on with it.
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When it's something important or something that interests me, I'll consider different sources and try to remain open to new information, even if it contradicts what I currently believe.
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Make it easy on yourself - just email me and I'll tell you all you need to know.*
* and things you don't need to know; this ain't no free service
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Very good connections.
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It's all very confusing and the change in administration in the US doesn't help.
Clearly, if I have the Oxford/Astrazeneca jab, then I know it will be Boris tracking my movements and controlling my thoughts. That would be okay as I might get some rather interesting ones, should I happen to see an attractive lady.
However, if I get the Pfizer/BioNtech, then will I be controlled by Trump (who may have stolen the password), Biden, Angela Merkel or Bill Gates ("Mind Control 10 has encountered a problem and needs to close. Contact your nation's administrator.")
And do both jabs required the same thickness of foil hat?
This is worse than having to decide between ketchup or HP Sauce on a bacon sandwich.
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Rich Leyshon wrote: This is worse than having to decide between ketchup or HP Sauce on a bacon sandwich.
I'm a veggie, but even I know: it has to be HP. 
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5teveH wrote: I'm a veggie
Another plus - another silver lining?
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Rich Leyshon wrote: This is worse than having to decide between ketchup or HP Sauce on a bacon sandwich.
The solution is rather obvious. It's called Falaffel.
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I know - and the saddest bit is that they are showing the "circuit diagram" for the nanotech online.
Which is you look at it is the wiring diagram for a guitar waa-waa pedal ...
The stupid bit is that if we had that kind of tech (tracking devices that needed no recharge, were so cheap you could randomly implant them in anything, trackable from significant range) everything we own would be already tagged by insurance companies, supermarkets, and police forces; and crime would be solved almost before it happened ... Which kinda proves it's a load of bollocks, even if the laws of physics didn't!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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I actually had to explain this to someone at work who isn't totally crazy, but susceptible to believe anything she sees on the internet/Facebook.
I told her we're a bunch of bunglers who can't even write decent software on a desktop computer, let alone on nano devices.
The constant internet connection and sheer amount of data such a device would generate would quickly crash the bugger and render it useless, let alone the automated updates (which obviously can't be delayed) 
Luckily, she's just as quick to believe me as the internet...
Although apparently it is possible, just not on such scale, but hospitals are already experimenting with it (I didn't tell her that though).
I've had to debunk some other crazy stuff as well.
She's recently cleared her cookies and now she doesn't get such nonsense on her timeline anymore 
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My new album was released today. TDIS "Bound To Be" Available at
Spotify, Amazon, Bandcamp[^]
and Apple Music, iTunes, Instagram/Facebook, TikTok/Resso, Google Play/YouTube (look for TOPIC: TDIS"), Soundtrack by Twitch, Pandora, Deezer, Tidal, iHeartRadio, ClaroMusica, Saavn, Anghami, KKBox, NetEase, Tencent, Triller, MediaNet
EDIT: I removed the direct links to all but Bandcamp (since I know you can listen for free). I've always been under the impression that if you have a subscription to the other services, you don't have to pay extra beyond your monthly subscription. Not true?
modified 27-Jan-21 7:34am.
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I don't think this is the place to sell your song - if you were a "new account" the post would have been removed as SPAM.
It's one thing when you put it up as just an announcement - but you also gave where it could be purchased - really, I'll have to think a bit longer before (at least I) pull the SPAM trigger.
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People: *Share something that they've put a lot of effort into and are proud of*
Other people: SPAM!!!!
I mean, the Bandcamp link is free as is a Spotify account.
W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote: if you were a "new account" the post would have been removed as SPAM.
Because a "new account" would have nothing else to offer, but their (self) promotion.
GenJerDan offered a bit more than that and now shares with us the fruits of his labor.
I can applaude his ventures into the ambient music space and wish him the best of luck with future endeavors and hope to see more of it right here on CP!
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Sander Rossel wrote:
I mean, the Bandcamp link is free as is a Spotify account.
The AMAZON link isn't free - I clicked it first and don't say any logic for clicking all three if they (presumably) point to the same content.
Showing his efforts would be "bandcamp" . . . hawking his wares, as in SPAM, is Amazon.
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I agree that the links to sell places should be removed.
Spotify wanted to force me to register, which I didn't
Amazon was giving only 30 sec pre-listen and the selling option
But the third one is letting me listen the full tracks just like that for free, (has the option for sell, but only an option) in my opinion that one could remain.
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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