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Strange that the output of the two is so different then.
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The page content should be pixel-accurate for most content even if there were two different rendering engines because the specs are precise. If they are different, that's either in an area where the spec leaves decisions to the user agent or where the rendering engine is not compliant. iOS does include multiple HTML components, so perhaps it is now possible for an app to use a different renderer than iOS Safari uses, but if so, the renderer is still provided by Apple.
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Sadly Edge is just another Chrome, reporting to a different HQ.
No, Chrome is not perfect, because remaining on top is easy if you are big enough to break others' products.
The only sane browser on Windows was IE11, just look at it's memory usage.
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Peter Adam wrote: Chrome is not perfect
I never claimed that it is. I just stated that of all the browsers I have used I find Chrome works best for me. So when someone says it is the worst browser ever I tend to dismiss his opinion because it does not match my experience.
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You are right, it is far from being the worst. Technically the other side (except on 32 bit systems, where still IE11 the only sane memory consumer on Windows)
But unfortunately it is a weapon like IE6 was.
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I bet a lot of the bad firefox you saw was actually related to Flash player.
Flash player was terrible in firefox and I switched away back in 2010-11 too.
Now FireFox is far better and has a great dev console.
FireFox does some great things for anti-tracking built right in too.
You should try it out. Also you can share your history among machines and the data doesn't get shared anywhere else. you own your data on firefox. very nice actually.
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No, it was nothing to do with flash. I just prefer Chrome.
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Edge uses the same rendering engine as Chrome, but Microsoft has a vested interest in protecting your privacy, since their primary business focus is not the harvesting of user details for ad revenue but rather selling software and services which require user trust.
And, as pointed out below, Chrome on your iPad is just Safari in a tutu.
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If you say that getting the money
is the most important thing
You will spend your life
completely wasting your time
You will be doing things
you don't like doing
In order to go on living
That is, to go on doing things
you don't like doing
Which is stupid.
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I just switched to Ecosia[^] because of that article.
My "ned code urgntz" query was never this eco friendly 
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hey Alta Vista still exists. (sort of)
Alta Vista Web Search[^]
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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Wow, I haven't seen that one since the 90's 
Yahoo lost pretty much all of its market share over here.
They were pretty big with search, mail and news in ye olden days.
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What about Opera?
Bond
Keep all things as simple as possible, but no simpler. -said someone, somewhere
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What about it?
I still use Chrome, but my default search engine is now Ecosia.
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hmm, So Chrome worked its way to the top and now is the one that has the biggest target on its back. That is all articles like this are saying. Hey I want to take pot shots at the most used/biggest thing out there.
That being said there are other browsers. LOTS of other browsers. And this author only listed the big ones that everyone already knows about anyway. In the past 6 months I have tried out the following browsers
Chrome - Just works!
Opera - Works pretty Well
Old Edge - ummm you mean IE 12? It sort of worked.
IE11 - Needed for somethings avoid for all others.
New Edge - Actually pretty spiffy.
Brave - IT is a Brave new browser called Brave? It actually is worth checking out. I kind of like it.
FireFox - See Opera.
Sea Monkey - See Opera. only less so.
Tor Browser - HAHAHAHA Yes it works slowly. Not sure why you would unless you want to hide what you are searching for. Which would cut down on ads if you are willing to go that route all the time.
So all that being said. Who cares? Which one works for you use it.
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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rnbergren wrote: So Chrome worked its way to the top and now is the one that has the biggest target on its back. That is all articles like this are saying. Hey I want to take pot shots at the most used/biggest thing out there.
Exactly. It happened to IE, it happened to Firefox, now it's happening to Chrome. Welcome to the internet.
I'm old enough to remember when Firefox came out and people talked about it like it cured cancer. "Gah, IE is RUBBISH, use Firefox", that's all you read. Now it's "Gah, Firefox is RUBBISH, use Chrome" and so on. It also makes me laugh when I see these kids rubbish webforms, MVC is great, now MVC is rubbish and the next thing is great. I always tell them that in a few years time what they think is great now they will think it's rubbish. I guess one thing experience teaches you is that things don't "become rubbish", it's just that other things improve.
Meh.
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rnbergren wrote: Not sure why you would
Privacy. What else ? 
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Quote: Hey I want to take pot shots at the most used/biggest thing out there.
No, here is the part we "forget", and I believe THIS was the point of the article.
If you use google Chrome, they have ACCESS to every site, and EVERY password you have, whether you saved it or not (on the basis that they process the screen/html). So, they could certainly, grab/steal/store ALL of your details (and most probably do). Waiting for a hack to come through that exposes EVERYTHING about you.
But it gets worse. They have a political agenda, too. Maybe you are MILO or someone they despise. What do they know about you? Hmm, your bank, your username, your password, which IP addresses you come in from. [My bank ties my IP down, and requires special authorization to use from elsewhere], but if I use a VPN, and they know the company. THEN they just dial through that VPN, and come out the other end with full access?
We have way too much trust. I remember when the biggest issue was spam.
And I use 3 different browsers, including Brave.
Chrome is COMFY and basically works. But I don't do my banking on it!
Now imagine when you use a MFA key, using a google MFA APP. LMAO. Does that suddenly give you the creeps? Or worse, the QR code was DISPLAY by a chrome browser that recognized it was a QR code. And then knew the next 2 numbers you keyed in to authenticate the device.
Oh, are we soooo trusting... [don't worry, SSL/TLS promises us that ONLY GOOGLE/CHROME/BROWSER and YOU know the details. I only trust ME in that relationship].
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In the old days, when you complained to web site that their pages didn't display properly, the answer was plain: "Why don't you use IE6? It works perfectly with IE6!"
Nowadays, the answer is equally plain: "Why don't you use Chrome? It works perfectly with Chrome!"
I've had this answer from two different web sites, and from numerous friends and colleagues. When I reply "Yeah - just like with IE6!", those old enough to remember the browser wars turn to mumbling and their face gets a darker color. (The younger ones don't have a clue.)
I started using FF as an alternative to IE6. I keep on using FF as an alternative to Chrome.
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I started designing websites around 1998. Back then, I designed for 2 browsers - Internet Explorer and Netscape Navigator (and Firefox a few years later when it came out). What was frustrating back then is that I was a stickler for compliant HTML. Often things would work fine in Internet Explorer, but not in Navigator or Netscape. These situations usually involved some feature desired by the customer. The problem wasn't that IE was a better browser, it was almost always because Navigator and Netscape were code compliant whereas IE was more forgiving and would incorporate and allow features that used html code (or javascript) that W3C deemed non-compliant, often that were specific to only IE.
My choice - either design a non-compliant site to include requested features, or talk a client out of something that their mind was already made about and that they were paying for. You can guess what decision was made each time.
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Be Brave.
I've got tears in my ears from lying on my back and crying over her.
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I hate that chrome doesn't have a drop down arrow in the address bar for recently used sites as all other browsers do and have had since creation.
I use SeaMonkey for general purpose browsing as it has integrated Thunderbird with RSS support too. I still use pop3.
I find QBO and WooCommerce render best in chrome so I begrudgingly use it for those tasks.
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I switched to brave on Friday, entirely because of a Mozilla blog entry - We need more than deplatforming - The Mozilla Blog[^]
I don't need the web browser to pick/choose what I do/don't see.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Thanks for pointing this out, though I doubt browsers will filter anything. It's the search engines that do that. But this is the second imbecilic thing I've read on this blog, so they only have one strike left.
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Thanks for the link. Looks like I'll be switching too.
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You don't want your web browser to expose the sources of advertising and make the web more transparent? You don't want to know when search results have been boosted by money instead of relevance?
Ok then, enjoy your bubble. Because that's all that article is talking about - not changing what you can or cannot see on the web, unless you dump "knowing how the sausage is made" into that pile.
Though I'll admit that the Brave people definitely have the right idea, just a pity it's Yet Another Chrome Derivative.
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If you say that getting the money
is the most important thing
You will spend your life
completely wasting your time
You will be doing things
you don't like doing
In order to go on living
That is, to go on doing things
you don't like doing
Which is stupid.
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