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Maybe I’m an incorrigible romantic, but it seems to me that snowstorms bring the best in people. People are unfailingly polite, acknowledge you with a smile and ready to help. Even drivers, and it is a widely accepted fact that Montreal drivers are the second worst in North America after the New York ones, become considerate and unhurried. It might be the realization that, Holly Molly, if something bad happens, without these fellow humans I might be in deep trouble. Anyway I would change it for the world 
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Mircea Neacsu wrote: econd worst in North America after the New York on
Apparently your driving experience is surprisingly limited..
Now I understand that Montreal drivers would suck - consider Paris drivers and that you all speak the same language (a grunt is a grunt is a grunt) and share the same attitude about that dying language - it makes sense.
I've driven in a lot of US cities - at least from the midwest on eastward. Chicago drivers were worse - wouldn't let you change lanes even when it was essential for you, but, at the same time, their cab drivers drove much better and more politely than those in NYC.
In more rural places - the pickups drive down the center of a two-lane one way road as routine. "Get outta' m'way, here ah come!".
A national epidemic seems to be that many drivers have decided that they are abrogating their agreement to stop at stop-signs and red lights.
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Quote: Chicago drivers were worse - wouldn't let you change lanes
Sorry, I don't understand the concept of "letting someone change lanes". Do you mean "forcing your way into another lane while listening to the horn of the cars behind you"? 
Mircea
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No - not at all what you're apparently used to.
I mean putting on your signal because you must get over to make a turn and awaiting another drivers allowing you to get in. Or, Chicago style, speeding up to make sure no one can get in . . . except, ironically, the cab drivers.
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yep, only in chicago. In every other city in the US you turn on your turn signal and eventually someone will let you over. Not Chicago
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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You have clearly never driven in eastern Massachusetts. A turn signal is considered a sign of weakness. It's how we can tell the out-of-staters from the Massh*les.
If you don't tailgate, someone WILL try and get between you and the next car.
If a car CAN be fit between two other cars, it WILL be fit between two other cars. Regardless of the prevailing speed of the cars on the roadway. 75mph in bumper-to-bumper traffic on Rte 128 and that BMW will barely fit ? He's coming in your lane. Close the gap if you don't want that to happen.
If you drive less than 15 mph slower than the posted speed limit in the left lane, you WILL be passed on the right in very short order. And get a single-finger message in the bargain. If you can't be passed on the right, well there's always the shoulder, or the breakdown lane. Or extreme tailgating.
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Slacker007 wrote: ...very dangerous driving conditions.
With or without snow, NY is a dangerous place to drive (or do anything else for that matter).
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
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I think not only for driving...
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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David Crow wrote: NY is a dangerous place to drive (or do anything else for that matter).
Aside from QAnon, where else do you get your info?
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W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote: where else do you get your info?
Flat earth society and bigfoot sightings.
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I moved from Vermont to Virginia to escape the snow and now it is snowing here. Ugh.
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South: hurricanes.
West: tornadoes and (these days) all sorts of intense weather year round
West Coast: Between fires and earthquakes, the weather's fine (especially in the Northern areas if you really really like rain) or stay south for extended droughts.
Here, Long Island, NY, we have a small chance of hurricanes, warmer winters and cooler summers than would be expected (thanks to big bathtub called "Atlantic Ocean") and, if you don't count Superstorm Sandy (cough cough) then we don't flood as the water runs off our island into the sea.
So - I thought I'd want to move away to somewhere better - but it's really an endless trade-off.
Really - no place to hide - just a classic case of "pick your poison".
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For those of us who love snow migrating south isn't an option.
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Winter Wonderland 
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Holland? Not really. But there is nothing like heading south after the snow has fallen, but not so far. Just close to the border to Austria and the mountains. On some lonely field with that scenery I would like go flying with the helicopter again, after a whole year of not being able to do anything like that. Even the virus helps, because the road may actually be full of people who wear wooden shoes in cars with yellow/black license plates on their way to the mountains.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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It will be interesting to see how they reach Austria with this boat. 
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Maybe taking the long route via the mediterranean and using the Tagliamento river?
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You should know even better than me what the weather and the sea is like on that route at this time of the year. You guys are not the Vikings!
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Still waiting as they keep changing the local prediction. A lot of rain now predicted in the middle of it. Predicts now 4"-6" in most places, but one threatens more like a foot, another, 1"-3".
South of the south shore of Long Island - the rain - mix - snow line is going to waggle back and forth across us. Then all the nice wet snow will freeze solid.
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we had that snow about 3 days ago. in the midwest. It was wet heavy and annoying. But it looks pretty after. After what? Spring?
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Will Thursday be at "work from home" snow day? Oh wait, we've all been working from home since March! 
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Snow is perfectly fine when the snow is dry, it is five to ten degrees below freezing and staying there!
The terrible conditions are when it temperature swings around freezing all the time - slush, ice, ice cold rain ... Zero is actually a lot colder than ten below! Besides, when it "warms" up, the winds come.
I'd much rather take a calm day with the sun shining from a deep blue sky at twenty to twentyfive degrees below zero, and dry snow plowed two meters high, than slushy streets with cars spraying all over you, and the ice cold rain is going right into your bones at two degrees plus.
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One reason I left that part of NY when I graduated high school. (A dying economy being the main reason.)
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