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I thought all C/C++ use vi?
To err is human to really mess up you need a computer
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Real devs use emacs  . Actually, I'm bi. I use vim mostly, but then use emacs when debugging. Maybe I'm just strange?
Keep Calm and Carry On
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vim & make and, sometimes, git.
Visual Studio on Windows, but I usually write C/C++ code on a Linux box.
"In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?"
-- Rigoletto
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VS. No contest. Just the best IDE on the planet, bar none.
Thankfully, my days of EDLIN and vi are well past ... and Brief was the reason for that! 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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OriginalGriff wrote: VS. No contest. Just the best IDE on the planet, bar none.
A real blessing, measured by my current headache.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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I thought Brief was it when it came to full function editors.
It was great but VS has surpassed it like no other; it is now the best, no argument there!
What will we have in another twenty years?
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Even today, Brief did some thigs I miss from VS: being able to edit - and see on screen at the same time - four or five different files was just wonderful!
Screen Split in VS just doesn't cut it. But it does so many, many wonderful things that you forgive the little bits missing.
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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I have never used Brief, so I don't know what I'm talking about to see four or five different files at once in it, but you can do that in VS can't you? Just drag the tab out of the main window, or right-click on the file in the tab bar and select 'Float'. If your tabs are top or bottom, you can have several windows around your screen to see them at once. If your tabs are right or left (like mine), the tabs take up a lot of space so getting several windows open simultaneously is harder.
I'm sure you have tried this before, and it isn't equivalent to Brief's method, but if not, have fun!
edit - you can even use Window snapping on them
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You can, but Brief did it better - you could open two or more windows on the same file so you could build an enum, a switch that processed it, and the methods that called all at the same time; or compare two lists and have them scroll together; or ... ah, I'm getting a tear in my eye now ... 
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Isn't this what Notepad++ does when duplicating a file to a second view?
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You can also duplicate a window in Visual Studio through the "Window -> New Window" commands, and drag the second copy to its own window in order to see two copies of the same file at once, but it doesn't sound as nice as Brief.
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What was the editor that used with ship with RMCobol called ? it kept every single edit you made in a seperate file until you ran out of space - wonderful - I've a feeling it was called M
"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
modified 19-Nov-20 16:38pm.
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These youngsters don't know what they missed. Brief could also go, what was it, 50 line mode? So very nice.
I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.
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43 or 50 depending on your hardware. Either was a massive step up from the standard 25 lines!
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Edlin  nostalgia ain't what it used to be
"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Brief. Ahhhh, I still use VC6.0 for my embedded C projects editor. Slick Edit is fine, but nothing is faster than VC6.0 with *windows* instead of tabs.
I though VS stopped supporting BRIEF emulation back at VS5.0 or so. The last VS I used is circa 2015- and no BRIEF emulation.
What editor out there supports BRIEF emulation and MDE-style windows? What is an old guy to do?
(I dislike tabs- even when one can pop out files.)
Do we weigh less at high tide?
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EDLIN
Accept no substitutes.
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You fancy-boys and your EDLIN.
Real men, women, and those of blended gender use TECO[^].
Software Zen: delete this;
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There are some tasks for which I still use TECO.
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Are you running one of the versions for MS-DOS/Windows, or do you have an actual DEC machine?
Software Zen: delete this;
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Now one of the dos/Windows versions. I first learned TECO on a PDP 10 in 1972 when my company moved from IBM to DEC. I used it professionally in TOPS-10, TOPS-20, RSX, and VMS. I now have Windows and Linux systems at home. If I could get a VMS system at a reasonable price I'd probably do so though more to get EVE/TPU than anything. Have been watching the group porting VMS to x86 with interest, but waiting to see what they offer to non-commercial users. Right now it looks like they offer a free limited-time license (alpha emulation) but you have to backup everything before it expires and re-download and re-install/restore. I'm not sure I want the hassle, though I loved working in that environment.
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I did a fair amount of work on PDP-11's/RT-11 and Vaxen in the 1980's.
My final project in that environment had a requirement that the delivered source code could only be in FORTRAN-77, which didn't support some of the VAX/VMS extensions I wanted to use. I wrote a code generator that converted the sources written for the extensions into pure 77. The generator was a combination of TECO macros and VAX/VMS DCL, and was probably one of the butt-ugliest things I've ever written.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Visual Studio and Visual Assist and ReSharper C++. (maybe overkill, but both have their advantages)
I'd rather be phishing!
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I prefer a Sharpie®[^] and oak tag, although this[^] will do in a pinch.
Obvious reply: 'and it shows in your code quality'.
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