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Re: WSO CCC OTD 2020-11-18

OriginalGriff18-Nov-20 0:03

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18-Nov-20 0:03

You'll have to wake up and assimilate the day quicker than that! Laugh | :laugh:

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Re: WSO CCC OTD 2020-11-18

Rage18-Nov-20 2:37

18-Nov-20 2:37

I was already on CP at 7:30 but that would have been too unfair to remind so early Big Grin | :-D

Surveillance Cameras

pkfox17-Nov-20 20:33

17-Nov-20 20:33

Hi All, I'm thinking of installing some WiFi surveillance cameras at my house and thought I'd ask if anyone here has experience with this
TIA

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NeverJustHere17-Nov-20 20:37

NeverJustHere

17-Nov-20 20:37

Yes, I have experience installing WiFi surveillance cameras at your house.

What you you like to know?

Edit: Added joke icon Smile | :)

modified 18-Nov-20 3:01am.

pkfox17-Nov-20 20:59

17-Nov-20 20:59

Hi and thanks for replying, what cameras you use, how you control them, how you power them - any info really - one thing I don't want is any data stored in the cloud I wasn't complete control. Thanks again.

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Richard MacCutchan17-Nov-20 21:16

Richard MacCutchan

17-Nov-20 21:16

There is an article somewhere here on CodeProject that may be worth searching for.

RickZeeland17-Nov-20 21:38

RickZeeland

17-Nov-20 21:38

Take a look at affordable-wireless-security-cameras[^]
I have several very cheap Chinese WiFi camera's like the Techage which work very well, especially the 'Human detection' option, you can view them anywhere via your smartphone, provided you don't mind using Chinese servers.
Could not get them working via their webpage in the browser however but they also work via ONVIF, e.g. with the iSpy Agent software: iSpy: Open Source Camera Security Software[^].
So if you don't want cloud storage you can also use them locally and record on a microSD card, they often can also be connected via a network cable.

modified 18-Nov-20 3:50am.

GuyThiebaut17-Nov-20 21:59

17-Nov-20 21:59

I use webcams, if you are going to use wifi based cams just have a look on Amazon.

I wrote my own webcam security system which I have been using for the past 8 years (self promotion link[^]).

I would say more important than the webcams is to make sure that the software they run allows you to control them remotely as well as saving images remotely and not just locally.

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pkfox17-Nov-20 23:38

17-Nov-20 23:38

Hi what did you write the app in ?

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GuyThiebaut17-Nov-20 23:55

17-Nov-20 23:55

.NET C# Winforms
I also use a React frontend so that I can control it via the WebApi remotely.

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pkfox19-Nov-20 21:12

19-Nov-20 21:12

Looks very good I'll look at it

Edit
Hi Guy I downloaded the source code but I notice there are no .csproj files only a .sln so VS won't open it

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modified 20-Nov-20 3:40am.

GuyThiebaut19-Nov-20 23:22

19-Nov-20 23:22

The source code is way out of date, I need to update the github repository at some point.
The install should work but I am going to take a guess that you would rather build it yourself.

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pkfox20-Nov-20 0:21

20-Nov-20 0:21

Hi Guy thanks for replying - is the code still publicly available ? I'm interested to see how it all works before I use it - I haven't even decided on a camera yet , because of the hassle of running CAT5 to the cameras I was thinking of getting wireless ones but have been put off by some of them comments on here Big Grin | :-D

I think I'll just buy one IP camera and have a play with it then expand when I have a better understanding of it all ( if that ever happens Big Grin | :-D

) thanks for your time.

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bradut7-Dec-20 20:06

bradut

7-Dec-20 20:06

Hi Guy,
I've tried to run your code, but it seems that the following projects are missing:
- TeboCam\TeboCam.csproj [fixed by renaming the directory 'source_code' to 'TeboCam']
- vfw\vfw.csproj [not fixed, there is no such .csproj file]

Maybe I am missing something Smile | :)

Regards,
Bradut

modified 8-Dec-20 2:53am.

GuyThiebaut8-Dec-20 0:26

8-Dec-20 0:26

Hi Bradut,

Completely my fault, the online repository is very out-of-date and I need to tidy things up.

I am off on holiday next week(at home in lockdown instead of at home working Laugh | :laugh:

) so I will try and get the changes done and committed this weekend - I will let you know once the changes are in the repository.

Regards
Guy

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bradut8-Dec-20 20:00

bradut

8-Dec-20 20:00

Hi Guy,

Thank you very much.

I have been interested in this subject a couple of years ago, and decided to spend my spare time this month improving my IP WebCam hobby project, therefore was curious to see your implementation.

My project controls the camera via CGI commands which I plan to replace with absolute PTZ ONVIF commands.
In my case, preset points are not reliable because this camera keeps on changing its "aiming" direction after each reset, so I need to "recalibrate" it somehow. I am thinking of offsetting the preset points with absolute (x,y) values after each reset, to compensate the deviation.

Since this is an weather camera accessible online via a web-browser, I will access the ONVIF PTZ API via a WebAPI.
If I used it as a security camera, I would just run its desktop companion software, and dedicate my spare time to other hobby projects Smile | :)

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Best regards,
Bradut

GitHub - bradut/ipwebcam-viewer: Web Viewer for my IP WebCam (PTZ)[^]

Rage17-Nov-20 23:46

17-Nov-20 23:46

Your app looks great !
What is it running on ? NAS or server ?

GuyThiebaut17-Nov-20 23:57

17-Nov-20 23:57

Thanks - I run it on a small form factor pc.
It runs locally rather than as a service - it's a winforms application.

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Rage17-Nov-20 23:45

17-Nov-20 23:45

I use Jeedom on a Raspberry Pi as home automation server, which has a camera plug-in. It is plug and play.
Another possibility is to use the Synology Surveillance station if you already have a NAS.

For the hardware, I have WansCam cameras on LAN or Wifi - I think the brand does not exist anymore. Cheap and does the job.
If you have a bit more money to spend on, Foscam is probably what you should be looking for.

Important thing : My cameras have no direct link to the internet, so no clounding. All of them, whatever the brand, have been proved to stream to the internet if they can.

theoldfool18-Nov-20 0:42

theoldfool

18-Nov-20 0:42

I installed and take care of 11 cameras at a business site.
If you are serious about the security side, I would recommend starting at ipcamtalk. Signal to noise ratio is so-so but the wiki has some good info. Avoid wireless if you can. You have to run power, just as easy to use POE.
We use Blue Iris software on a dedicated W10 system, reasonable price, has built in Web Server, there is a phone app (a little spendy, I use VPN). We do have one wireless camera, could not get Ethernet to it. It disconnects/connects a few times a day on its own, interference. I set all cameras to reboot every morning just in case. Saves climbing ladders.
Make sure the camera(s) are ONVIF compliant, watch out for cheap knockoffs that don't have US firmware.
I had a wireless camera on my patio for a while (blue iris on a spare system). Was interesting to watch a raccoon try to open a container of plant food. He eventually succeeded, didn't like it.

OTOH, doing such with a Pi is fun. Have not tried the new camera. Did have the original camera streaming.

Home Tech videos on youtube has a lot of interesting how-to's.

Watch some of the demo's at Nellys, interesting technology in the cameras that automatically follow stuff.

Alibaba is filled with so-called bargains. Be careful.

Python can be handy to check out stuff on your camera. I have a script that lists all cameras and can show the current images on the monitor. Works with USB cams as well. Handy for testing, maybe some monitoring not much else if you want to do alerts and such.

Fun stuff.

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Gerry Schmitz18-Nov-20 7:30

Gerry Schmitz

18-Nov-20 7:30

WiFi doesn't mean wireless / powerless. The trick is getting any cable at all to them and still have them in the best locations.

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brookerrrj18-Nov-20 20:08

brookerrrj

18-Nov-20 20:08

I installed a couple of cameras monitoring the front and rear of our house. The biggest problem was the spiders, they are attracted by the infra red, build their webs across the cameras and cause multiple triggers at night. The solution was to configure the lights in the cameras to be off, and mount independent infra red led flood lights a couple of feet to the side of the cameras.

davecasdf19-Nov-20 5:43

davecasdf

19-Nov-20 5:43

I paid $20 for a Sony SNC50??, only VGA, good zoom lens, NOT inconspicuous, NOT weather resistant. CAT 5 or their wireless card. As I remember, ( I wanted to have it watch the bird ( squirrel ) ( and chipmunk ) feeder ) it's easy to set it for capturing stills on motion detect, but I didn't get it to do triggered video. The dome cameras are weather resistant and less conspicuous.

A PI Zero and ( frickin - frackin 4 mile long link ) Arducam board from Amazom plus an adaptor ribbon cable 'cause the Zero's camera port is different. And Motion / Motioneyes... Gets a cheap motion detect / video record solution that may work.

Motion wouldn't do what I wanted so I can't say for sure should do multiple cameras, motion detection-recording.

( I got 6 cameras, 5 Zero's 1 Pi4 and 6 coral tanks, frame every 5 minutes ( Python script, cron job, rsync - rss ) stop motion growth movies. ( And the fastest snails you ever saw. ) )