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This is a moped (or "class L6e"). Compared to a "classical" mopeds, I think it is likely to be much safer. E.g. it has proper seat belts. Being a four wheel vehicle, it is far more stable than a two wheel (or even three wheel) scooter; it won't tip over very easily.
As a moped, it has a maximum speed of 45 km/h. Compared to a car running at 80 km/h, this reduces the risks significantly. Mopeds generally keep to the right in lane, so a head-on collision with a car coming towards you at 80 km/h is less likely than if you were driving a car.
This is certainly not a vehicle meant for highway driving, where you have those situations crash tests are aimed at. It is for city driving. Sure, you have accidents even in the city, but they are more like bumping into each other - nothing comparable to a crash test.
I am certainly not expecting the same crash safety as in a modern car. But if I were to reject it on grounds of crash safety, I would have to reject all sorts of mopeds, motorcycles, ordinary bikes, and not the least these modern electrical "kick scooters" you see everywhere nowadays.
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trønderen wrote: it has a maximum speed of 45 km/h
trønderen wrote: It is for city driving
These two statements seem to be at odds with each other.
I'm guessing these aren't allowed in bike lanes either (assuming they were to exist at all).
trønderen wrote: Sure, you have accidents even in the city
Yeah - having to swerve into the opposite lane to go around those who can't keep up with traffic is a great way to cause said accidents.
My stance is simply this: You can't allow bicycles, golf carts, mopeds and pedestrians onto the same streets as car, trucks and tractor trailers, and have city councilors declare their city as "eco-friendly". Innocent people pay the price for that level stupidity.
I work with someone who has a friend who's now spending the rest of his life confined to a wheelchair because someone thought it was a good idea to mix bicycles with other traffic. Co-existence, my ass - if I had to bid on a car's bumper vs someone's kneecaps...it's a no-brainer to me. I'd be terrified sitting in a thing like this in the inner city with cars going all around me.
Yes, I do feel rather strongly about this, thanks for asking.
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dandy72 wrote: Yeah - having to swerve into the opposite lane to go around those who can't keep up with traffic is a great way to cause said accidents.
I have been driving a moped tricycle for a while, same 45 km/h max speed and as wide as the Paxster. Even though the speed limit is 50 km/h, in the city cars rarely go at the speed limit. The trike had no problem keeping up with the car traffic. Now and then I was of course overtaken, not by car drivers wanting to drive at 48-50 rather than 45 km/h, but by those coming up like an arrow from behind, whooshing past me at 60-70 km/h, out of sight within a few seconds. Those driving like that know to look for conflicts with other cars (or they wouldn't be driving long). 45 km/h "enough" to not be a hindrance for cars within the city. I know from practical experience.
If you insist on driving faster, there is an L7e version of the Paxster as well, with a 60 km/h speed limit. But arguing for higher speed to improve safety and prevent people from ending up in wheelchairs will not be supported by those analyzing traffic problems.
In Norway, bikes have for the last 30-40 years been allowed to use the sidewalks. It has lead to a lot of conflicts and some serious accidents, and traffic planners in many other countries think we are crazy. When electric bikes arrived, they too were allowed to race down the sidewalks, yelling to pedestrians to get out of their way. We got these electric kick-scooters, and they were classified as bikes with the right to use the sidewalk. There is no longer room for pedestrians there...
For a couple kilometers on my way to work, there are separate biking lanes on both sides of the road. Yet, way more than half of the bikers choose the sidewalk, yelling angrily if I don't get out of their way fast enough. If I stop and just point to the biking lane, they get really mad!
Cities have these pesky buildings sitting in the way, limiting the maximum width of the road. There simply isn't room for separate lanes for pedestrians, pedal bikes, el-bikes / el-scooters, mopeds and cars, in both directions. We must co-exist, and learn to adapt to each other. We cannot always demand to have our full rights to drive as if we were alone on the road. The you can drive at 50 km/h is small. The time that you are behind a 45 km/h moped is small. The combination, where the moped ahead of you is what prevents you from your car-given right to drive at 50, and not that car ahead of the moped, is very rare in city traffic.
Separating different kinds of traffic is a good idea, if space and other resources allow. But demanding a separate lane for vehicles because they can drive at "only" 90% of the speed limit would be crazy. And equally crazy putting pedal bikers at 7-15 km/hour in the same lane as 45 km/h mopeds.
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trønderen wrote: And equally crazy putting pedal bikers at 7-15 km/hour in the same lane as 45 km/h mopeds
That's the sort of thing I object to. Placing different vehicles that have completely different acceleration/cruising speeds on the same roads.
I was about 7 when I realized a bike had no place on public roads. There's plenty of adults who don't understand that understand that but still believe it's their God-given right to impede traffic. They know they do, and don't care. The smug ones even take pleasure in it.
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Call it Sam, after Samuel W. Alderson[^] - he invented the crash test dummy. Something I don't think has ever been in that vehicle. 
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I don't think Postman Pat's car has a name.
But how about Paxter McPacface? 
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Postman Pat's van's registration no was PAT1, so calling it PATI would seem reasonable. There actually was a UK registration of PAT1 - it was owned by someone in the village that I used to live in.
Q. What did they call Postman Pat when he retired?
A. Pat
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I have a red 1988 Oldsmobile I call "The Olds", and everyone knows what I mean.
Call it "The Pax" (until someone else on the block gets one).
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recently I bought a legacy software in Windows 2000 era from eBay. It turns out this software is stored on three 5.25' floppy disks.
now I ran into the trouble: how can I copy these installation files into CD-Rom or other devices?
diligent hands rule....
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There's got to be some kind of floppy to USB converter I'd imagine.
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modified 8-Oct-20 15:37pm.
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Wow, you're right! I would not have expected that.
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some 5.25' floppy disk drive price goes to $100+
diligent hands rule....
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How bad do you want this software, is it worth it?
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yes, it is worthy to take a look at it on my old XP machine...
diligent hands rule....
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Depends what is on the disks: back in those days one common form of DRM was to put deliberate faults on specific sectors, and check for those flaws during installation or app init.
If you really want it, Amazon sells USB 5 1/4" floppy drives, so FleaBay will as well.
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I think I was the last one to have a system which supported floppies and I replaced that a year ago.
I made sure I copied my floppies to my hard drive a few years ago.
I've seen 3.5" USB drives, but not 5.25"
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thanks for good link
diligent hands rule....
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Beware that lots of "preformatted" floppies sold did not have the proper format code written to the boot sector. Old DOS and early Windows versions tried one format after the other (180K, 360K, 720K, 1440K ...) until they found one that worked.
At some stage, MS guide said 'No more! There shall be a format code in the boot sector - the standard requires it to be there!' I believe this policy change came with Windows XP (correct me if I am wrong). After that, floppies without a proper format code was treated as "This floppy seems to be unformattet - do you want to format it now?"
The only reason I have to keep a Win95 installation available is for reading that sort of floppies without a proper format code. Reading the floppy from an external USB drive doesn't change it - no 32 bit Windows will accept a floppy without a format code, regardless of drive.
So if your floppies are not correctly coded, you may have to search up someone with a genuine Win95 installation, or earlier.
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thanks for sharing your experience![Rose | [Rose]](https://codeproject.freetls.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
diligent hands rule....
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I was wondering when to scrap my 5150, but with 2 5.25 floppy drives I'm starting to make money.
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Do you have a 5.25" drive?
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Southmountain wrote: a legacy software
You have said too much here : what software ?
5.25" was already oldskool in 2000, how old is your software ?
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And once you got the bits off the disk (and onto another disk): Do the bits make any sense?
You may be so lucky that you know in advance which file system was used on the floppy. You may know which applications were used to create the files. You may have access to the specs for the data format in the files.
Or you may be less lucky. Old floppies may be holding proprietary file systems, with files in proprietary data formats. You can't even take for granted that space is allocated in 8-bit byte units, or that text (including file names) is represented in anything ASCII-like encoding. Maybe it is, but you won't recognize it; e.g. DECsystem mainframes stored five seven-bit ASCII characters per 36 bit word. If an application wrote its text data in 36 bit words to the file, you couldn't read it without knowledge of the format.
It seems like the OP will not encounter that kind of problems, so this comment is mostly relevant for those trying to recover even older floppies.
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