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That's what is being counted on...
#SupportHeForShe
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That's it, exactly - no doubt about that.
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I’ve sometimes wondered about it too. I figure they’re tightening up on some loophole that a new lawyer found.
Reading both versions, old and new, and being able to realize the differences would be impossible for me.
I like when a company provides a summary of the relevant changes. I’ve considered downloading the various versions and running them through a diff tool. But, then I lose steam or interest and just say ‘elephant it - doesn’t really matter.’
Anyway, there’s nothing wrong with being curious (being aware?).
Cheers,
Time is the differentiation of eternity devised by man to measure the passage of human events.
- Manly P. Hall
Mark
Just another cog in the wheel
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EULA's under CP'w license are fair and simple;
But some are beyond what is fair, and most go beyond simple.
This world predatory.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Nobody reads them, say as NDA's and so forth.
My standard NDA pre 2000 included the ritual sacrifice of the first born child as a penalty for disclosure, but it was always signed without comment or revision.
I even got asked to sign a NDA that had been copied from it at one point. 
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OriginalGriff wrote: My standard NDA pre 2000 included the ritual sacrifice of the first born child as a penalty for disclosure
To which god(s)?
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I didn't specify ... leaves more scope for creativity!
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I once read about a guy who changed his mortgage contract, signed it and then sent it back to the bank, who also signed it without reading.
He changed it so he got negative rent and such, which of course he didn't get.
Either one sued the other, but I can't say who won 
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I don't; any agreement that's agreed upon under misconception, deception or fraud is not an agreement in legal terms; it simply doesn't count as "agreeing". It's one of the basic concepts. 1
Everyone clicks "I agree", since we not lawyers and hardly understand the legal bullshit, but we need to click there to get access to the product we actually paid for.
We all ignore it, because their "terms" are worth de nada. They present jargon to use what you paid for. Everyone says "I agree". Misleading agreements are no agreements. So, we not bound to it; it is a form of legal intimidation, but nothing more. Those agreements are void.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Yeah, that's the other part I didn't want to get into - I think the common agreement is that EULAs are generally non-enforceable.
My point was one of morbid curiosity however - trying to immediately spot what it is they try to sneak in over time. If the changes are brought to focus, it's easier to see where they're coming from, and from that, make up your own mind about the company.
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I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.
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Just had an email from Amazon Prime - and Outlook (rightly) blocked the images to prevent phishers getting a "live email address" indicator.
Trouble is, Prime emails are all pictures, so I have no idea what has "Just arrived on Prime Video".
No hassle - there is a "click here to open in your browser" ribbon kindly provided by Outlook for just such occasions. Click it.
"Are you sure? The security settings will not be the same". Yes.
So it ... opens it in IE11 ... 
So a moments thought tells me why: Outlook looks at the email in HTML and packages it in a MHT file and uses the default app to open those via Process.Start (or similar). Unfortunately, neither Chrome nor Edge support MHT files anymore, so it digs up the oldest browser it can find on the computer and uses that ...
So MS's recommended email product produces a file that MS's recommended browser can't open any more ... that's joined up thinking at it's best, that is!
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Oddly enough that happened to me a few days ago. I though it was just a glitch in something and ignored it.
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Sounds like they need to update Outlook to produce a better file format. Knowing Microsoft, Outlook will continue to produce and consume MHT files long after the rest of the world has moved on.
Real programmers use butterflies
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MHTs are a good file format. They work, are standardised, and supported. Outlook is doing the right thing by generating MHTs.
As I say in my other message, it would simply help if Outlook could alert the user to other MHT viewers available in the system. (Or even view its own MHTs, which it should be able to do given that they are standard EML files).
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Yes, it's annoying when you click on "View in Browser" by mistake, instead of "Download Pictures".
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OriginalGriff wrote: Unfortunately, neither Chrome nor Edge support MHT files anymore
Microsoft Edge does support MHT files.
Looks like an operating system build problem. The default protocol handler for {3050F3D9-98B5-11CF-BB82-00AA00BDCE0B} is here: HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{3050F3D9-98B5-11CF-BB8200AA00BDCE0B}\InProcServer32
OriginalGriff wrote: that's joined up thinking at it's best
Fair assessment. The default browser for the operating system is currently in a transition period.
modified 4-Oct-20 13:36pm.
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Randor wrote: Microsoft Edge does support MHT files.
You sure?
Just like Chrome, it opens it as raw text, and displays the HTML.
It's possible that prior to the new Chromium version it did, just like it used to support epub files.
But it doesn't now!
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Hmmm,
I am on a canary build so it's entirely possible that I have additional features. Can you do me a favor and download a .MHT Sample File[^]
After downloading it shift-right-click and choose 'Open With' and browse to the Edge executable.
OriginalGriff wrote: It's possible that prior to the new Chromium version it did
I am on a canary build of Chromium-Edge. I am able to open MHT and MHTML files. I can also save pages as MHTML single file.
Best Wishes,
-David Delaune
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Interesting: If I download that it opens OK in Edge.
So Outlook generates MHT files that aren't actually compatible?
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OriginalGriff wrote: it opens OK in Edge
I thought it would. 
OriginalGriff wrote: So Outlook generates MHT files that aren't actually compatible?
I can't imagine why it would generate anything different, MHTML is actually a standard documented in RFC 2557[^]
Best Wishes,
-David Delaune
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Randor wrote: I can't imagine why it would generate anything different, MHTML is actually a standard documented in RFC 2557[^]
Are we not speaking about Microsoft? 
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
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I'm not an expert in the area of MHTML file formats but I would hazard a guess that the display problem @OriginalGriff is having is caused by Outlook generating a MHT file with the MIME type set to 'Content-Type: text/plain'.
The reason it opens in IE11 is an operating system team build issue. The OS image needs to change the default value of HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{3050F3D9-98B5-11CF-BB8200AA00BDCE0B}\InProcServer32 which currently defaults to an apartment threaded (IE11) C:\Windows\System32\mshtml.dll
A COM object wrapper for launching Chromium-Edge does not exist yet, so don't expect any changes anytime soon.
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Randor wrote: I would hazard a guess that the display problem @OriginalGriff is having is caused by Outlook generating a MHT file with the MIME type set to 'Content-Type: text/plain'.
If Outlook is opening the user's default app for MHT files then the MIME type is surely irrelevant. The MIME type would only matter if there was a HTTP connection which should surely not apply to this case.
Randor wrote: The reason it opens in IE11 is an operating system team build issue. The OS image needs to change the default value of HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{3050F3D9-98B5-11CF-BB8200AA00BDCE0B}\InProcServer32 which currently defaults to an apartment threaded (IE11) C:\Windows\System32\mshtml.dll
A COM object wrapper for launching Chromium-Edge does not exist yet, so don't expect any changes anytime soon.
Good grief, surely not. That would mean that Outlook is massively over-complicated things. Windows has a simple mechanism that supports the necessary default app functionality without needing a COM wrapper for Edge!
See HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FileExts. This contains subkeys that contain user choices for default apps for the specified filetypes. If the filetype is not found as a subkey of this key (meaning that the user has never made a choice) then the fallback is via HKCR\<.extension>. The default value of this key will point to another key in HKCR (e.g. by default ".mht" points to "mhtmlfile") that contains a "shell" subkey that eventually contains the command line necessary to open the file type in question.
New apps can register themselves as supporting specific capabilities using the HKLM\SOFTWARE\RegisteredApplications and HKCU\SOFTWARE\RegisteredApplications keys. The Capabilities keys pointed to by each app's entry in both RegisteredApplications allow users to choose default apps for specific file types and protocols in the Settings app. The user's personal choices are recorded in HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FileExts (for file types) and HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Associations\UrlAssociations (for protocols)[1].
No COM should be needed at all.
Does Outlook really try to use COM in this scenario?
Footnote:
1: It irks me that Microsoft mis-used protocols to open Microsoft Shop/Metro apps. This means that each app requires a new protocol to be added, which does not make semantic sense. Microsoft should have created a new mechanism (perhaps encapsulated within a single "ms-shop-app-runner" protocol for backward compatibility) for Shop/Metro apps. Or, you know, just let Metro apps be run from a command line.
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yeah,
It's seriously too early in the morning to be reading all that.
markrlondon wrote: MIME type is surely irrelevant.
Sounds like you are one of those guys that think that when you download an EXE, AVI, MP3 or whatever that the browser decides what to do... based on the file extension. That would be wrong, browsers use a MIME type sent by the webserver to determine what to do with the file. MHT/MHTML files have a MIME type. (I am leaving out MIME sniffing for brevity)
markrlondon wrote: Good grief, surely not.
You say this then give an accurate (and very good) description of how MHT files would be opened. Which results in the same default HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{3050F3D9-98B5-11CF-BB8200AA00BDCE0B} handler being invoked provided he hasn't overridden the ftype handler. You are saying the same thing as me here.
markrlondon wrote: No COM should be needed at all.
You have no idea how much COM is used in Windows. It's not going away. After an internal review it was decided COM is actually a good/stable framework and we built new system services in Windows 10 on top of it.
Best Wishes,
-David Delaune
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