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Some industry experts argue that the time has come for business users to be able to steer their own destinies when it comes to application development. If everyone's a developer, no one's a developer?
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Kent Sharkey wrote: Some industry experts argue that the time has come for business users to be able to steer their own destinies when it comes to application development.
Let me guess... those "experts" are the ones from marketing / sales?
If it still is difficult for us to build the bridge between what it is supposed to be said in the specifications and what the computer does... I don't want to imagine what that "steering their own destinies" would end to 
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Quote: Some industry experts argue that the time has come for business users to tell developer to just shut up and give them what they imagine; nothing is impossible!
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Low/no-code != Low/no-knowledge
I've worked with a supposedly low-code platform and it worked great... For the most rudimentary forms.
Other work, like a questionnaire that showed questions based on your answers, became a hell of a lot more complex because you have to work around a platform that doesn't support it.
Instead of writing code and reusing parts of it, I had to drag block to the screen and do it twice because of an if-else-block.
Not to mention the amount of JavaScript I needed, and I was tied to just jQuery (an older version at that) because that's what the platform used.
I worked with a client who had been doing VB(.NET) WinForms and SQL Server for the last 20 years.
He took on quick enough, but he admitted there was a learning curve and sometimes struggled for hours for something I did in ten minutes.
The whole web and HTTP stuff was lost to him at first.
Ultimately, we found out, not a single business user used the platform.
Only customers with their own IT departments or customers who paid for "programming" services from a partner.
Missing features like source control and the ability to write back-end code (as a fallback) make me never want to use it again.
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Not sure what you used but I have to use Mendix and it is pretty great. Mostly.
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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I used Betty Blocks (Dutch company), which wasn't my choice.
Ultimately, my client, a startup, had to quit because BB cost them €16,000 a year and they didn't have enough customers to pay that kind of money.
I warned my client up front, but they didn't listen and I got to use BB, learn a bit and make some money, so not all is lost for me 
Mendix sounds a lot more mature, but it's even more expensive (€1,875 a month or €22,500 a year  ).
I've been meaning to check out Microsoft Power Apps.
Although at that price, these platforms really aren't interesting for most of my customers.
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Sander Rossel wrote: 22,500 a year
It does seem expensive but I'm not sure it really is.
If you figure in the cost of hosting an enterprise application and database and then have the option for rapid application development, there are a lot of scenarios where it makes sense, I think.
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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Sure, it's probably perfectly reasonable for enterprises, and even if it isn't, they won't notice €22K more or less 
Then again, enterprise customers could probably pay for "regular" developers as well.
And those 22K isn't the end either, an application still has to be built, by less knowledgeable "citizen developers" (or often regular developers).
That's when the costs add up.
And when it's all done and running you may find development costs weren't all that much cheaper and even if they were you'll have paid another €100+K in five years just on hosting anyway
But my customers aren't enterprise customers.
Like I said, that startup went down on the costs of their hosting alone.
A lack of customers doesn't even have to be the problem if your costs are low (I offered to do it for the same initial costs and then host it for €50 a month).
For them it meant the end of their business as the app they build wasn't portable and only ran on BB (another reason I told them not to use it!).
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I'm glad I'm close to retirement. After all, I'm apparently not necessary any more.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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When everyone starts learning logical thinking maybe everyone will be able to start developing programs that work
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That should keep us safe forever then 
TTFN - Kent
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Kaladin wrote: When everyone starts learning logical thinking maybe everyone will be able to start developing programs that work
Half of developers do not think logically. 
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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Thanks Syndrome (I still don't understand the name.)
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A physicist loses half the value of their physics knowledge in just four years whereas an English professor would take over 25 years to lose half the value of the knowledge they had at the beginning of their career I'd post a JavaScript framework that answers the question, but it's already obsolete
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Kent Sharkey wrote: I'd post a JavaScript framework that answers the question, but it's already obsolete
You can always roll another one[^] 
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Trick question, I've worked on a lot of code over the years and it seems many programmers never had any knowledge to begin with! 
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Problems aren't just in Marketplace but also in Amazon's first-party listings. People that paid too much for this also overpaid for these items
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Kent Sharkey wrote: People that paid too much for this also overpaid for these items
Hey... Amazon is just being solidary... and wants to accompany Apple so it is not that lonely in the blood suckers rank
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Sophisticated hackers and crooks are developing more tools to target Linux-based systems used by government and big business. With great popularity comes great attack volume
Or something like that
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I am curious about... what are going to be the answers of the "Linux has no virus / no malware" guys.
[cooks popcorn] and hides
M.D.V.
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We’d like an easy way to judge open-source programs. It can be done. But easily? That’s another matter. When it comes to open source, you can’t rely on star power. 10/10 Would blurb about again
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Kent Sharkey wrote: 10/10 Would blurb about again
11/10! That's Great!
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Nvidia Corp. is nearing a deal to acquire SoftBank Group Corp.’s chipmaker Arm Ltd., according to people familiar with the matter, an acquisition that would extend its reach into mobile devices. "Aux armes, citoyens"
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Makes nVidia bigger than Intel, and with Apple's recent announcement that they're switching to ARM chips in their computers, it injects a bunch of cash into their bank account.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Update process will be simplified and enhanced going forward "He that deceives me once, its his fault; but if twice, its my fault."
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