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In England we used to have a gas range with an eye-level grill/toaster. We could make English toast (toasted on one side only), cheese on toast was easy - anything on toast was easy. Why don't they do eye-level grills anymore (in America they call them broilers, I think)?
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I just broil in the oven. I don't think I've ever seen what you're talking about. Now I'm curious.
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What the USians call "Broiling" is called "Grilling" in the UK.
What the USians call "Grilling" is called "Frying" in the UK.
What the USians call "Frying" is called "Deep Frying" in the UK.
These terms are flexible and are changing in the UK as the pernicious US influence spreads like a virus through the Uk population.
This is why it is called and "Eye-level Grill", not an "Eye-level Broiler".
I believe that they became less popular because they got in the way of modern extraction hoods. I still miss them though. [^]
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� Forogar � wrote: English toast (toasted on one side only)
That's French toast. A regular part of my diet growing up in the 50s.
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No, French Toast is fried, not grilled: Easy French Toast Recipe | SimplyRecipes.com[^]
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Back in the 50s we made do ... 
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Most important is a proper knife.
Get a Windmühlenmesser [^] in carbon steel with Solinger Dünnschliff and you will realize that all knives you ever had before were blunt.
They need to be treated well though (or they will get stained), and regularily sharpened.
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I use ceramic knives - seriously sharp! "Now that's a knife!"
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I went ceramic over five years ago, and still have the four I bought then - three of them are still just as sharp as the day I bought them with no sharpening.
I still have my steel knives though, because ceramic can't be used on bone - the edge is too fragile and you get chips.
I did buy a proper ceramic sharpener as an import from Japan because I know my wife ... 
That's why "Three of them" haven't needed any attention! 
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Yeah, they hold the edge much longer than a steel knife, but I have several dislikes with them.
Higher friction is one, the brittleness is another. You really can't do this[^] with a ceramic knife.
The brittleness also leads to another problem as far as I'm concerned, most ceramic knives have a very high edge angle of up to forty degrees to compensate for the brittleness which makes them less... well, not less sharp, but rather... they simply don't cut as well's a knife with a 10-15 degree edge. You'd know what I mean when you cut a tomato and the chopping board remains dry.
So they really are each others opposites with different strong points.
That said, I really should buy my wife a ceramic knife of her own.
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Jörgen Andersson wrote: You really can't do this[^] with a ceramic knife.
TBH I wouldn't do that with my steel knives either!
And you can't crush garlic with the blade either.
But I vastly prefer them for "normal" tasks: salad prep, veg check, chopping onions, meat, ...
Jörgen Andersson wrote: I really should buy my wife a ceramic knife of her own.
Oh yes. most definitely. And make it a nice pink handle so she can tell which she is destroying is hers, if she is anything like Michelle.
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OriginalGriff wrote: TBH I wouldn't do that with my steel knives either
It's just to show how thin the edge is, uhm, actually no, it's a test the knife sharpener does to see if it has been properly made.
OriginalGriff wrote: And you can't crush garlic with the blade either.
You can with the blunt side, but I'm actually cheating and use a garlic press.
OriginalGriff wrote: But I vastly prefer them for "normal" tasks: salad prep, veg check, chopping onions, meat, ...
I get your point, but it's actually when you chop onions you really notice the difference using a sharp knife with a low edge angle, there's no need to cry as the onion cells aren't crushed.
It's rather for flexible stuff like meat where the secondary edge angle doesn't matter that much.
OriginalGriff wrote: if she is anything like Michelle.
It sounds like it. 
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Always did it that way, except I do the horizontal cuts before the vertical ones, it's easier that way.
Also have to love the comment:
"Gordon Ramsay: How to peel a banana
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The kitchen appliances or .NET 5? 
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stay safe
Caveat Emptor.
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Just wait. As dogs will get "the zoomies" just before bed, soon everything life will try try n' get you up about will be met with your own meh. 
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Itz gud!
It's because of all those electrolytes!
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Pole in the middles makes rust. (8)
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Shouldn't it be 7 letter? or 's' has a role?  ..
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Yes, 8 letters, and s is significant.
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Corrodes?
Pole : Rod
Middles : Cores?
in middle is CORRODES ?
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Dang! Beat me to it!
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Wow, that was close.
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