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All I will say about such behavior is that if I were his boss, and I discovered that he had deliberately released such code as a final product, he would be out the door as fast as possible.
No company needs engineers that will deliberately produce faulty or useless products. The potential liability is too high.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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In the final analysis, we are all ethically, if not legally, responsible for all consequences of our actions. It is tragic that this young (at the time) man had to learn this the hard way.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I have rejected several job offers just because they came from companies in industries I do not wish to support, for this very reason... 
It can come sneaking up on you when you're already employed, of course, but so far I've been lucky enough to avoid that... 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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modified 31-Jul-20 11:56am.
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The entire LLC (Limited Liability Corporation) and Corporate accountability standards need to be revised, so those who run such companies think three times or more about their actions. This is a huge problem around the world right now, as we are all aware of.
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It used to be Swiss law that the principals of banks (directors, executives) were liable, to the full extent of their personal wealth, for making depositors whole if the bank went under.
Now too-big-to-fail banks are the worldwide norm, with prop trading desks that gamble with depositors' funds. If you're a depositor at a bank, you're an unsecured creditor of that bank and your funds can be used to bail it out.
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Volkswagen, Boeing 737 Max... the list goes on... 
I'm championing an effort to (re)educate our dev teams at work. And part of the curriculum is this video on the ethics of software development, by Uncle Bob. I urge every CPian to watch it.
/ravi
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Oh cool, thank you for the link!
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The only problem with that excellent video is his conclusion: software professionals will become regulated. That won't happen until the regulators actually want responsibility to be assignable. They unconsciously understand that they, themselves, will have to be responsible for their own actions. And the corporate bodies will also require some accountability. None of those entities really want that reality. The only responsibility anyone seems to want is the responsibility of bringing in money. As seen by the lack of response to Boeing.
Maybe I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong.
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I just finished it... 
That should be played in every computer science first day classes around the world.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Nelek wrote: That should be played in every computer science first day classes around the world.
It's going to be the first video lecture every member of the R&D organization (from CTO down to intern) will need to watch. I'm proud to work for a company that believes in me and has empowered me to bring awareness into the R&D team. Our company's culture rocks.
/ravi
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He gets no respect from me. Lacks empathy.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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There's no reason to be ashamed of doing that. Should Microsoft also be ashamed because their code was used to run a website that he built? Or Compaq for providing the hardware to run that site?
I used to do work for Monsanto, the devil chemical company. At the time I didn't realize who they were but I don't regret helping people do their job.
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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I understand his point of view, but I don't necessarily agree.
Personally, I've worked and work for slaughterhouses, but I'm a vegetarian myself.
If I had a choice I'd rather do something else (and I'm doing different things), but I know people in the slaughter industry and if they approach me for work I won't turn them down.
On the other hand, if I don't write the software, someone else will.
I mean, it's only a multi billion industry.
I can't fight it by not writing their software, but I can fight it by not using their product.
This guy made a website for some drug and someone died.
People die of regular food; people die in cars, their fumes are polluting the world at large, and oil companies are pretty much the root of all evil; people die from drinking; they die from other prescription drugs and the big pharma's are a bunch of mobsters in any case...
Even when working for your government, you'd be working for scammers, grabbers, liars, pedophiles, killers and warmongers.
The four of the biggest tech companies in the world are currently under investigation for, well, less than ethical behavior (and we all know they're guilty as hell) and we all use their products.
And, indeed, there have been a couple of scandals in the meat industry as well, even some of which were my customers at the time.
I understand it can leave a bad taste in your mouth, but I think his assessment of marketing was correct and this company wasn't out to kill teenage girls.
Perhaps he should focus more on how many people were cured/helped by taking the drug.
With his attitude you can't work in any industry anymore.
Now that is something to be worried about.
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I used to do a lot of embedded industrial control software with large dangerous equipment, It was my daily fear that something would go wrong and kill a bunch of people. I had to move on, the stress was killing me
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I worked in the software development, spent most of my time in lead/senior roles and did some consulting as well.
I left the field many years ago.
Sorry if this makes anyone uncomfortable, but here's the reason:
I have a very serious and rare mental illness that comes with symptoms of schizophrenia and bipolar disorders - which I seem to have inherited from my biological mother's side of the family, along with my father's IQ. My brain is just wired funny.
But I can't tell an employer - "oh I left the field because i went nuts and wouldn't leave my house or talk to anyone for years."
I'm taking a novel, very new medication that works for me, which is why I'm considering reentering the development fray.
I can get certifications for any technology or platform I want to actually want to develop against.
It's just the gap I can't explain, and I don't want anything incredibly dishonest because it would be a lie I'd have to live with every day.
Any ideas?
Real programmers use butterflies
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Quote: I have a very serious and rare mental illness that comes with symptoms of schizophrenia and bipolar disorders
This is normal for developers.
If you have fully recovered then a career change (e.g. project management) is advisable.
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Are you being serious? "This is normal for developers." I mean?
I've never met another person with schizoaffective disorder that I'm aware of.
CPallini wrote: If you have fully recovered then a career change (e.g. project management) is advisable.
That is THE DEVIL's TRADE! 
Real programmers use butterflies
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The other me says I'm not serious. 
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You can say you had personal health issues (or say mental health issues) which forced you to take a break without going into further details! 
If they act worried, you can assertfully confirm that this is no longer going to be a problem. Hence that's why you are looking to get back to work!
You can even add you've take some new drug with great success for one year already, so it's definitely proven fine!!
Good luck with the medication!
I too have chronic health issues, it's a real bummer! 
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Thanks. Maybe that is route to go. I guess on one hand it's better to know upfront if they aren't going to be able to accept that in my case.
Real programmers use butterflies
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Good luck!
Add your CodeProject article to your CV / Resume! It will show good current programming skill that can easily be peer reviewed!
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definitely! I've got a lot material here.
Real programmers use butterflies
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I wouldn't... if you are not going to explain all, then don't connect your CV with CP. Once found your article, all your post history is open to the world
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Yeah, good point, which you made in the message i read from you prior. Again, thanks.
Real programmers use butterflies
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I'd leave health issues as vague as possible, and specifically not include that they're mental health related. The goal is to get hired, not beat down negative stereotypes about people with mental health problems being unemployable.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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