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Re: The irony of code

OriginalGriff28-Jul-20 1:43

OriginalGriff

28-Jul-20 1:43

Everything is like that!
I just had Amazon deliver a new mini-food processor (A Kenwood CH180, replacing ... another CH180 that has plastic fatigue after 20+ years) and ... it's at least five plastic mouldings (that's five injection moulding tool pairs and each of them is a load of work to make, I've paid for a few in my time) plus assembly, design, prototyping, label design and print, box design and print, the purchasing and logistics of all of those and the components, marketing, shop placement, credit card processing, packing, shipping, ... a whole load of things went into getting a small box to me.

And I unpacked it, plugged in in the kitchen and pushed the button to make sure it worked. Two minutes.
Now I might not touch it for a week, I dunno when I'll need it. Laugh | :laugh:

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Re: The irony of code

jsc4228-Jul-20 3:41

jsc42

28-Jul-20 3:41

Why didn't you print them yourself rather than buying them?

Re: The irony of code

OriginalGriff28-Jul-20 3:47

OriginalGriff

28-Jul-20 3:47

My 3D CAD skills are nowhere near that level!

Re: The irony of code

DerekT-P28-Jul-20 1:49

DerekT-P

28-Jul-20 1:49

And 2 seconds for the demo to end in a BSoD. Laugh | :laugh:

Re: The irony of code

Johnny J.28-Jul-20 2:26

Johnny J.

28-Jul-20 2:26

It's even worse when you spend hours coding something, and everything works when you test it, and then the customer breaks it in 5 seconds flat because he does something stupid that he's not supposed to do... Sigh | :sigh:

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Re: The irony of code

honey the codewitch28-Jul-20 5:53

honey the codewitch

28-Jul-20 5:53

I had something that worked flawlessly for me, and pass my tests for two weeks before taking it to COMDEX where it promptly crashed in front of fortunately just one person at the time. Had to take it back to the hotel room and try to hotfix it. I put a bandaid on it that also disabled a feature to get it working.

The fault was mine. Early days of professional programming for me, and I tried to do too much with not enough time.

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Re: The irony of code

dandy7228-Jul-20 2:26

dandy72

28-Jul-20 2:26

Worst perhaps is what I've been saying throughout my entire career, and that is we, as developers, "aren't building cathedrals". What I mean by this is that most of us can spend years on some software product, and no matter how great it might be, software rarely has a shelf life of more than a few years. After a decade or two, it's like the software never existed. Cathedrals, on the other hand, are still standing after hundreds of years. Mind you, nobody might know the names of those who worked on it, but the monument still stands after centuries.

I've never been in it to "leave my mark", and I'm okay with that. But anyone in this industry who wants to make the history books will be severely disappointed.

Re: The irony of code

Greg Utas28-Jul-20 2:36

Greg Utas

28-Jul-20 2:36

It depends what you're working on. Probably the most useful things I did was to develop two application frameworks. One of them is still executing code over 20 years later, and the other (as far as I know) is still executing code over 35 years later. Applications are still being developed on the first one, but I'd be surprised if that was still the case with the second one.

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Re: The irony of code

RDM Jr28-Jul-20 9:15

RDM Jr

28-Jul-20 9:15

I'd have said it depends on how badly you screw up, and how publicly as well. In my case, no history books, because nothing I do working for a market research company is going to have any lasting effect on anyone or anything, and I like it that way.

Re: The irony of code

dandy7229-Jul-20 3:54

dandy72

29-Jul-20 3:54

I suppose there's also the aspect of visibility. Only those who develop against your app framework know anything about it. I'm betting this is entirely meaningless to the end users.

Re: The irony of code

Greg Utas29-Jul-20 3:57

Greg Utas

29-Jul-20 3:57

It's certainly invisible to end users.

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Re: The irony of code

Amarnath S28-Jul-20 2:53

Amarnath S

28-Jul-20 2:53

Like a Tip of the Iceberg. We don't see the huge mass hiding below in the water.

Re: The irony of code

Mircea Neacsu28-Jul-20 3:01

Mircea Neacsu

28-Jul-20 3:01

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" - Arthur C. Clarke

You should be happy you are such good wizard Smile | :)

On the other hand inside each of us there is a little cabotin who would die to reveal the secrets and get the applause.

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Re: The irony of code

Gerry Schmitz28-Jul-20 7:03

Gerry Schmitz

28-Jul-20 7:03

The easier you make it look, the more you are taken for granted.

I'm aware of one who rose to V.P. because he was responsible for a COBOL mess called "the P&L": the Profit / Loss statement.

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Re: The irony of code

David O'Neil28-Jul-20 7:18

David O'Neil

28-Jul-20 7:18

Marc Clifton wrote:
...and it takes less than 2 minutes to demo it to the customer.

Yes, but now you can spend the rest of your life organizing your CD collection! Big Grin | :-D

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Re: The irony of code

dandy7229-Jul-20 3:56

dandy72

29-Jul-20 3:56

David O'Neil wrote:
Yes, but now you can spend the rest of your life organizing your CD collection!

I'd welcome that. Try organizing a collection of untagged MP3 files...

Re: The irony of code

David O'Neil29-Jul-20 6:26

David O'Neil

29-Jul-20 6:26

If they are organized by directory, MP3Tag can take a lot of the work out of it. MP3Tag is an amazing tool for that job.

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Re: The irony of code

dandy7229-Jul-20 8:40

dandy72

29-Jul-20 8:40

I'm a long-time fan of MP3Tag. But there's only so much automation can solve.

Re: The irony of code

enhzflep28-Jul-20 16:01

enhzflep

28-Jul-20 16:01

:laughs:

Watching videos from the Royal Institute yesterday, I encountered The Extreme World of Ultra Intense Lasers - with Kate Lancaster - YouTube

In it, she touched briefly upon some of the targets used for high power laser research. You know, the implosion targets with Deuterium & Tritium in them. https://images.newscientist.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/dn18446-2_500.jpg

They are apparently costing a million dollars each to produce.
Demonstrating them takes about 10 nanoseconds.

I imagine they'd be incredibly envious of your ratios!

Re: The irony of code

CPallini28-Jul-20 20:10

CPallini

28-Jul-20 20:10

And the longevity of some quick-and-dirty code is surprising as well.

CCC 2020-07-28

Peter_in_278027-Jul-20 22:54

Peter_in_2780

27-Jul-20 22:54

We harmonise on the cusp of laughter without greeting. (11)

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CCC 2020-07-28 - timeout. SOLUTION

Peter_in_278028-Jul-20 3:01

Peter_in_2780

28-Jul-20 3:01

We harmonise - SING with U
(on the) CUSP - definition
laughter withouut greeting HILARITY

Guess I'll try something simpler for tomorrow.

Cheers,
Peter

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Re: CCC 2020-07-28 - timeout. SOLUTION

Greg Utas28-Jul-20 3:45

Greg Utas

28-Jul-20 3:45

I thought the definition had to be at either end, not somewhere in the middle.

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Re: CCC 2020-07-28 - timeout. SOLUTION

pkfox28-Jul-20 5:26

pkfox

28-Jul-20 5:26

It should