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I also played with the thought of spicing it up a little with some Akvavit 
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we used to have a comedy sketch here (Aus) about two airline stewards, and one of the funniest skits was about (punchline) "ring-damage" .. explosive prune smoothy && Akavit .. brings tears to my eyes 
.. and I shall say no more, lest I be banned
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(Do not want to spoil yours, but my - local! - vacation has been cancelled only 9 days before it's date...)
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Oh well, it would have been way too expensive for you
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It was payed by my employee...
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That sounds like a roleplaying game gone wrong 
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It is that the hotel converted to a COVID-hotel (hosting those who ill and their family only)...
That ensures 100% workload.... and government-payed...
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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If it's any consolation, the UK didn't cancel holidays, but yesterday announced that as from midnight anyone returning from Spain would be in two weeks Covid quarantine.
So anyone due to return from two weeks in the sun today have to explain to the boss why they won't be in for another fortnight ... 
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One of my uncles was Danish and used to keep a bottle of this in the freezer. When I was visiting, we'd play chess and down a few. He claimed it was traditional to drink the whole shot at once, but maybe he was just hoping I would hang some pieces! Ontario has a legal limit of 40% alcohol by volume, so the distributor needed an exemption to import it. Subtle caraway overtones.
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Yes it should be kept in the freezer.
btw. that caraway / anisette flavour will not be to everyones taste, it reminds me of Pernod.
And coincidentally, I also read that Ricard has taken over the Aalborg Akvavit brand and is:
Quote: Rethinking a unique concept and design
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Rethinking?! Have they no sense of decency? It'd be like rethinking calvados or cognac.
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You seem to have covered almost all of scandinavia in your gene pool.
You don't by any chance have an aunt from Iceland hidden away somewhere?
Btw, the danes have enough traditions littering around that they can choose whichever one is fitting.
But downing it all in one go, sounds more than plausible for all of scandinavia.
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Never stop dreaming - Freddie Kruger
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This uncle was not a blood relative. 
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Another gedanken experiment - like one I had with respect to cloth face masks vs. manufactured one (not N95). It's posted around here, somewhere.
But lets look to the future - down the line with the long term effects of COVID-19. At some point, everyone who can get it will have gotten it or been vaccinated against it. That leaves only one part of the population susceptible to the virus, which are the very young. Essentially, those constantly being born.
Consider some well established parallels - like, for example, the measles. It's a contagious childhood disease. In adults, it can be very serious, indeed, but in (almost) all cases, for the very young it's not particularly problematic. Does this start to sound familiar? COVID family of virus' are already among us - have been for years - but basically they're written off as just rhinovirus' and possibly influenza. For all practical purposes, they've become a background inconvenience.
My preposition is that COVID will follow this path.
The obvious problem, of course, is that until either (or better both!) a successful vaccine and effective treatments are developed, there will a horrible death toll until this "childhood disease" status is reached.
The future, then, is going to return to not "the new normal", but just plain "normal". That is, of course, until the next nasty jumps from animal to human hosts.
(I have a feeling the vaccines will trigger long-term T-Cell immunity based upon the current observation that antigens dissipate).
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Given the questions that are arising about people remaining immune after having COVID, I have concerns about whether a vaccine will be long-term effective -- long term enough to basically quash the virus, which is a logistical nightmare because it would, in my thinking, mean getting the entire world population vaccinated more or less simultaneously.
What concerns me more is the immediate future. I would say realistically that we are at least 8 months away from a vaccine, and I fear that's optimistic. Given the world is averaging about 5,000 COVID related deaths a day currently, that's another 1,200,000 people dead. Staggering. As you say, "horrid death toll."
So from my perspective, the future of COVID is really four parts:
1. Pre-vaccine
2. During vaccine dispersion
3. Post-vaccine social, psychological, economic recovery
4. Living with COVID as a potentially only childhood illness.
#4 is probably a long way off.
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Yes, a vaccine will most likely be long term effective. How long term is still unknown, but were talking years, not months.
Ref. tweetorial by Prof Florian Krammer[^]
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Somewhere in your schema I hope there's a placer for an effective treatment!
That would go a long way to mitigating the misery. Admittedly, people being how they are, there would likely be a lapse in caution if survival and a comparatively short recovery were all but guaranteed.
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Hmm. Not sure about that: Covid is caused by a coronavirus, and the common cold is caused by one of four viri: human rhinoviruses, parainfluenza viruses, adenoviruses, and ... coronaviruses.
If your theory held, then given how long we've lived with colds, everybody should be immune by now ...
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OriginalGriff wrote: If your theory held, then given how long we've lived with colds, everybody should be immune by now ...
They're finding people who are. Well, they're checking blood samples in storage for a decade or so...and finding the antibodies needed to ignore this version of corona...so the assumption is other people are already immune.
The "cold" viruses are mutable. That's why you can catch a cold over and over again, despite having had one already. So, even if they come up with a vaccine for *this* version, it will be useless three and a half days later when the virus says 'elephant you' and changes again.
EDIT: To clarify - the old blood they tested has the same antibodies that are tested for currently for Covid19, not that it indicates Covid19 was around a decade ago. So, either the current antibody tests are useless, or corona is corona is corona is corona, to mangle Gertrude Stein's poem.
modified 27-Jul-20 4:01am.
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Actually, the flu in particular and the that family of virus' have the ability to easily jump between humans and swine.
That's why, in days gone by, we typically had things called "the Asian Flu", the "Hong Kong Flu", and similar names. Although the practice is done world wide, it was particularly common in Asian countries for people to raise swine in their "front yard (at least the rural population) as a suppliant to their diet. It was an ideal setup for the jump, back and forth, and the appropriate mutations.
That's why they'll call something H1N1 as a type of flu: the "core" is the same as before (a nasty one) whilst the out jacket has mutated enough for our immune systems to no longer recognize it.
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I started preparing a long and winding answer, but realised a simple Yes will suffice.
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What's the POV here about post COVID for Entertainment, Food or Hotel segment? How long do you think it will take for these industries to be back to where they were pre-COVID?
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Many won't. They won't be able to make enough money under the restrictions to recoup what they lost in the last N months. And - of course - insurance companies will find a way to ensure that they weren't quite as covered as they thought they were ...
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Here in the UK many have already collapsed. Some businesses are still closed while others are opening but restricting numbers. As to how long before they are back to normal, your guess is as good as anyone's.
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I'm not sure the pre-COVID situation was that good... Not in the hotels at least...
The Holy-land is very popular, so we - the locals - had a hard time to arrange an affordable vacation in the summer...
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