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Greg Utas wrote: Doesn't it (1) track bugs; (2) track other issues; (3) help with project management?
It says so in the ads. Lots of free alternatives to outperform it.
Greg Utas wrote: And fire project managers, who are just so much joyless overhead.
A good PM is worth a lot.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: A good PM is worth a lot.
Gee, I didn't expect you to get serious on me! 
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We use it as an issue/time tracker (mostly issue tracker)
It works (for us) , it is not perfect (nothing is).
I'd rather be phishing!
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Maximilien wrote: It works (for us) , it is not perfect (nothing is).
Toilet paper has better performance and less bugs. Even the used toilet paper.
Did you ever consider to upgrade?
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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It's for projects where people don't talk to each other. Like a big job jar, suggestion box and bug report in one.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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Your sig reminds me of Isaiah 28
In that day the Lord of hosts will become a beautiful crown
And a glorious diadem to the remnant of His people;
A spirit of justice for him who sits in judgment,
A strength to those who repel the onslaught at the gate.
And these also reel with wine and stagger from strong drink:
The priest and the prophet reel with strong drink,
They are confused by wine, they stagger from strong drink;
They reel while having visions,
They totter when rendering judgment.
For all the tables are full of filthy vomit, without a single clean place.
* I'm not religious, but abrahamic scripture is interesting.
Real programmers use butterflies
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Jira is a bit like C. It's extremely powerful, but it is also easy to shoot yourself in the foot, ... with a shotgun.
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I've never seen JIRA used for Time Management well(*) - it is, however, a great way to track work items in units of time eg sprints, what you're working on, what's up next, that status of work items - dev, QA, Done etc.
As with a lot of things, it's a tool - if you work in a big development shop, it can be used well - I've seen it used poorly though, in commercial confidence I can't say too much on that, except that when you need to raise a JIRA to make a decision about raising a JIRA, well, maybe a phone call or email is better
(*) this may be the way the Time Management aspects were defined/set up
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What frustrates me is how important it is to my coworkers to insist on using every single feature of there systems. "Jira has this neat feature for doing xxx, why are we not using it?" "Well, we have not need for it" is no acceptable answer. Let ut make up a need for it!
So we have introduced all the complexities of Jira. Not only Jira. To use git "our way", you have to know every single command and option. We introduced Docker for solving specific problems having nothing to do with clouds or distribution, yet there was a strong demand that we put a Kubernetes box around it.
If we could only use Jira, and other tools, in ways that helps to solve a problem, to save work, and for noting else, it would be great. But that seems not to be possible. Lots of my coworkers prefer to excel in tool handling rather in problem solving.
To paraphase AE: "Use the tool in as simple way as possible, but no simpler".
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Member 7989122 wrote: Lots of my coworkers prefer to excel in tool handling
And lots of mine prefer Excel over actual tools... 
GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)
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It's defect tracking software and mostly used by software developers who work for companies large enough to afford paying their license fees.
~d~
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If several cats lie in the same sunbeam, are they multi-basking?
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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I'm sure someone will be able to shed some light on the subject.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Do cats keep their fur neat with a catacomb?
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I suspect someone else may have ranted about Microsoft Windows updates before, not sure...
My PC is stable. It runs Win10 and I spent a fair amount of time configuring it the way I like it. I do NOT like sending all my data to MS and I do NOT like that it downloads multi-gigabyte updates when I'm trying to hold a Zoom meeting. So not only have I turned off all the monitoring and update stuff I can find, I also renamed the Windows Update DLL, supposedly a sure-fire way to prevent updates. This latest I did after a "silent" update (no reboot even) caused my printer to no longer work. I eventually discovered the update that caused the problem and rolled it back, printer working again. The following week the same update was re-applied, printer broken again. FFS - If I roll an update back, it's because I don't want it, Microsoft!
Anyway a couple of days ago it started prompting me to say my system was obsolete and would be updated; did I want to do it now or set a future date? Well since I want to do neither of those things I just close the box. Yesterday I was doing some tasks (Word document open, VS open with some unsaved code etc) when the phone rang so I just closed the laptop (as I often do), being confident I could just carry on later. Well I didn't carry on until this morning, to find the system had rebooted overnight, lost my unsaved changes, changed the font face in my email client, and changed the font sizes throughout the system (MS Word menus are now unreadably tiny). So I've had to tinker with everything again, just in order to continue using my laptop, and then re-apply / rewrite my lost work. How many billions is the global value of wasted time, Microsoft?? How many laptops get thrown out of windows (no pun intended) in frustration and anger? And... I even used "help" to find out how to change global font sizes. Windows' built-in help tells me to go to Settings, Ease of Access, and choose "Display". Settings, fine. Ease of Access, fine. Absolutely no way to change anything display-related (apart from high-contrast) on that screen. Even your own built-in help is wrong, you ..... Words fail me.
Have a lovely day! It's not raining so I'm going out to sit and listen to birdsong for a while. I'll probably come back to a Windows screen that says "Updating... 100%" and sits there for 20 minutes, like it has in the past...       
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DerekT-P wrote: Microsoft Windows updates
First time I ever hear about it. This probably runs in the background, never occurred to me that windows was doing updates.
The sarcasm is strong in this post.
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Let me get this right.....you're blaming Microsoft.....because you lost....your unsaved work.....?
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Absolutely not. (Though it's not unreasonable to suppose that I shouldn't lose unsaved work by going into suspend overnight). What I really object to is MS forcing my system into an unusable state (system menus that are so small as to be illegible) when I have explicitly set the system to NOT auto-update.
When I purchased my Windows license I was purchasing the right to use a specific piece of software; I was not (wanting to) purchase something that would randomly (from my perspective) require frequent adjustments on my part just to keep usable. Were I OCD or have any of a number of other mental conditions the change in appearance and behaviour of "my" software could be really quite disturbing, and it's certainly disruptive.
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DerekT-P wrote: When I purchased my Windows license I was purchasing the right to use a specific piece of software
Keep reading that EULA; you'll find out they reserve the right to make modifications to it whether you like it or not.
But on a more serious note: WSUS. Even if you can't run it, point it to a non-existent server. With a WSUS server specified, Windows Update will never go out on the internet on its own to download any update. When you want to upgrade your Windows 10 build, use their ISO creator and let it install on top of itself. If you otherwise just want the latest cumulative update for your current build (aka those released on Patch Tuesday), get it from catalog.update.microsoft.com.
To point your system to a WSUS server (even one that doesn't exist):
gpedit.msc, Computer Configuration, Windows Components, Windows Update, then customize values for "Specify intranet Microsoft update service location". Use the same two values in the two edit boxes, such as "http://mybogusserver:5380".
Be aware though that this will also block Defender's AV updates, because they're managed by the same update system.
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Nice to know, thanks.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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DerekT-P wrote: Words fail me.
I can send you some perfectly fitting words 
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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DerekT-P wrote: VS open with some unsaved code
What is this mean? There is such things as unsaved code??
My fingers are hardcoded to do CTRL + E, D, S after every bit of code I write. (Format Document, Save). Every now and then I miss the D* and end up making white space visible.
FML 
* I have never actually "had the D" to know if I would actually miss it or not.
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It was only about 5 lines, but it's the principle. 
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Exactly. My fingers habitually press CTRL+SHIFT+S after almost every line I write.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Which isn't just save, but "save all".
If you don't, you might as well work of USB while copy/pasting for version control.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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