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John R. Shaw wrote: I will share this with my brother (a published writer)
I thought he died in 1950[^] 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.
Mark Twain
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You do realize I don't give a <blank>. (Possible) Relatives that died before me or my brother was born are irrelevant.
INTP
"Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence." - Edsger Dijkstra
"I have never been lost, but I will admit to being confused for several weeks. " - Daniel Boone
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You might have heard that most social network reinforce the media and point of view bubble that we have by prominently putting forward whatever view we already supports?
Well I dunno if they changed their algorithm, or if I fell through the cracks, or something...
Now on my Facebook page I got link I never got before, like a video on how to defend Christian Faith against Unbelievers.. This is like unreal...
Now I wonder should I watch the video out of curiosity? While it might enrich my knowledge of the world, simply watching such stupidity feels physically painful (quite literally!  )...
Hard conundrum, should I chose pain and (not very useful) knowledge of other social group or blissful ignorance?
Mmm...
Come to think of it, this is a general problem. Simply engaging with some.. different people, feels painful sometimes. Not because they punch us or something. But the simple thought gap between us and them is simply too wide and hurting. Yet engaging them can be necessary.
One could wonder how could one do it without needless suffering?!
modified 4-Jun-20 22:37pm.
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Super Lloyd wrote: should I chose pain and (not very useful) knowledge of other social group or blissful ignorance?
It depends...
If it is really crystal clear for you that the video is just extrinsic stupidity... then you can have a look, maybe you might laugh your a... off
But the risk is there too, that you that stark, that your head aches after a huge facepalm
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Once you watch one, the algorithm will recommend more. And they'll get steadily more batshit with each view. Before you know it, you'll be watching a video explaining how the lizard people from the hollow Earth, in cahoots with the last survivors from Atlantis, are using 5G to infect us with programmable chips so they can use us to mine for cryptocurrency, and only this expensive bit of tat that the video host happens to be selling will protect you. 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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So.. not watch!
However, about what you said about Lizard People, isn't that true?!  
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Richard Deeming wrote: explaining how the lizard people from the hollow Earth, in cahoots with the last survivors from Atlantis, are using 5G to infect us with programmable chips so they can use us to mine for cryptocurrency,
Lies, lies I tell you.
They don't mine cryptocurrency, they will use it to control us so they can take over the surface again
Tom
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I knew it! 
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That has to be the best conspiracy theory I've ever heard! You could make millions off of that!
"When you are dead, you won't even know that you are dead. It's a pain only felt by others; same thing when you are stupid."
Ignorant - An individual without knowledge, but is willing to learn.
Stupid - An individual without knowledge and is incapable of learning.
Idiot - An individual without knowledge and allows social media to do the thinking for them.
modified 19-Nov-21 21:01pm.
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I recently had some Jehovah witnesses at my door.
While I don't agree with what they're doing, they're still people so I'm nice to them.
So I asked "If there's a god, why would he allow so much suffering?"
The answer amazed me.
Apparently, God has a bet with the Devil that humanity can make it on its own.
Once we have proven ourselves and the Devil lost the best, God will return and make paradise on earth.
I literally told them "No offence, but your God is an a**hole if ever there was one! So much suffering for a bet with the Devil? How big is this guy's ego, how small is his dick?"
They understood my point, but still insisted he's merciful 
Unfortunately, I haven't asked what happens if God loses the bet, because things seem to be headed that way 
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Sander Rossel wrote: I literally told them "No offence, but your God is an a**hole if ever there was one! So much suffering for a bet with the Devil? How big is this guy's ego, how small is his dick?"
Job and his friends dealt with the same question over 2,000 years ago. Their answers were much more eloquent... 
Sander Rossel wrote: I haven't asked what happens if God loses the bet
I would have been interested in their answer...
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I can give you a reasonably intellectual reason why there's so much suffering.
(If) One axiomatically accepts the existence of a creator/deity.
Even with the biblical stores being take at face value about "creation", one must accept that the "Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil" was put their with the intention that Adam/Eve would eat from it. It didn't matter whether it was a day - a year - a thousand years - sooner or later they were intended to eat from it. Why?
Let's suppose they didn't. Then what would have happened in the world? Well . . . nothing! Adam and Eve and the animals and everything else would have just gone on effortlessly eating and multiplying. Overall, very pointless.
Now, forget about the existence of a so-called devil. If one's accepted deity is THE Supreme Being then there can be no opposition. Period. No absurd bets or anything. So what's it all about then?
Recall that I said that the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil was put their deliberately to be eaten? Now, with a knowledge of good and evil, doing either becomes a choice. So, what will mankind do? Languish as before eating "the apple" ? Well, now we have options!
SO - if you were the creator of a sentient, mainly, you'd stay out of things and see how it develops. Will man become ever more despicable a creation? Some do. Perhaps, instead, he will rise above just bare existence and give of himself to help others "above and beyond the call" as they say. Now, as a deity, you have a creation with a purpose - to rise or fall, rather than just rot in paradise. How will it turn out? That could be interesting when free will is thrown in.
So - sh*t happens. Not only natural phenomena but of our own doing. How do we respond? Which side of The Force will you embrace, so-to-speak?
Already too long, but I'll throw in one more tidbit to consider: if Adam and Eve did not know the difference between good and evil until eating that apple, then eating that apple could not have been a sin. They were, for all practical purposes, infants in that regard. Also, "creations" could have been "no more" than creating the laws of physics, using entropy as a driving force, and give the universe a push-start. That, to me, is more fantastic and glorious a creator's design then the old-school versions.
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That sounds like fun for a creator, and I might do it too were I it, but you can hardly argue it's benevolent and loving.
Or perhaps, in its eyes, give or take 100 years of occasional suffering for the 'experiment' is nothing compared to an eternal afterlife in heaven.
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Sander Rossel wrote: eternal afterlife in heaven.
Did you ever consider that in the Bible, neither an afterlife, let alone a heaven and hell, are ever mentioned?
Prophets may have dreams, stories and folk-law take one a life and certainty of their own. But it is not so written. I hope it's so - but it's just mankind's hope that there's more to ones consciousness when the body returns to dust.
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W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote: if Adam and Eve did not know the difference between good and evil until eating that apple, then eating that apple could not have been a sin. They were, for all practical purposes, infants in that regard
It wasn't a sin, but it did deserve punishment. Dogs don't know the difference between good and evil, but we still punish them when they poop on the carpet.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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No need to punish the innocent. You don't whack the puppy after its first mistake!
Instead, consider punishment for each of their first sins.
Adam: passed the buck to Eve ('that woman you gave me')
Eve: enticing atom when she, at least, should have known better*, and also, for scapegoating the snake.
The Snake - that's an interesting one to consider. Was the snake created wiser than Adam and Ever? From the narrative, it would seem so !
* Did Eve take two bites . . . just to stay one step ahead? (for women).
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I have an ASP.NET Core Razor Pages project, some JavaScript libraries, some CSS and some SCSS.
In the past I've used Gulp to transpile and minify/uglify my front-end resources, but I understood Webpack is the latest rage.
I never liked Gulp all that much anyway so I find me a nice blog on setting up Webpack and all is fine.
Except that jQuery is now undefined.
Lots of Googling and apparently I need something like this.
import $ from 'jquery/dist/jquery';
window.jQuery = $;
window.$ = $;
import 'bootstrap';
import '@fortawesome/fontawesome-free';
import Vue from 'vue/dist/vue'; So that looks like four different methods to get the same thing.
Especially the jQuery thing was somehow hard to find.
It has something to do with jQuery being an old package that doesn't use the latest standards.
But it gets better.
Everything works now, except if I want my JavaScript and CSS in separate files.
Lots of Googling later and I've found some plugins that I need.
It seems kind of impossible to generate separate files, but I got it working if I'm willing to accept an extra JavaScript file that's generated with my CSS file.
I even got in the SCSS transpiler, uglyfier and minifiers.
For some reason the 'style-loader' that everyone seems to use for CSS files generates JavaScript.
After lots of Googling I even got rid of all the overhead Webpack generates.
The default code generation actually makes heavy use of eval("...") 
But I've got all of that out of the way, so that's a win.
Except that whenever I make a change to any JavaScript or (S)CSS I need to run "npm run build" to build the entire frigging thing again!
Luckily, I found some .NET middleware that watches your files and run npm build automatically if anything changes.
Well tough luck because that's deprecated and no good alternative is offered.
Now I have to install a Webpack server, if I want to get serious with Vue I need to install a Vue server as well.
I'll probably revert to just using my original JavaScript files in development mode.
This sh*t cost me hours to set up and development just became harder.
The documentation is horrible and all over the place.
For every little thing I need I have to install a new npm library that comes with a gazillion dependencies (actually, I've got 576 folder in my node_modules for a total of just over 90 MB).
Just when you think you've got it, you bump into some problem and you need an extra package or, if you're unlucky, completely replace the one you're using and start over.
WHY THE HELL IS WEBPACK SO POPULAR!?
Unfortunately, this was the same reason that I didn't like Gulp and that I don't like those front-end testing frameworks or any front-end work for that matter.
Front-end is a mess and despite (or because) all the tooling it's not getting any better 
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I've never done web development, but I get the sense that it's often a mishmash of things that could be described as, "You're in a maze of twisty little passages, most of them filled with knee-deep shite."
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So true.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Me neither, and this is why
I don't have the time to learn some new fangled library every week, and then try to figure out how to make it work, or why it stopped working.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is.
Everything makes sense in someone's mind.
Ya can't fix stupid.
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Jep, that's how it is, especially JavaScript (front and back-end)
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Greg Utas wrote: I've never done web development, but I get the sense that it's often a mishmash of things that could be described as, "You're in a maze of twisty little passages, most of them filled with knee-deep shite."
I love the naive optimism of people who've never done webcrap. 
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Chin-deep?
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