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OriginalGriff13-May-20 20:56
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OriginalGriff13-May-20 20:31
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Mask to protect them from me. Technically, officially, without-a-test-I-can't-be-surer I'm not infected, infectious, or in any way capable of giving this to others. But ...
Gloves for two reasons: to protect me from them, and to help maintain "zones".

Hot Zone: shops, everywhere other people are, everything they touch.
Warm Zone: inside the cabin of my car - not Hot, not Safe.
Safe Zone: home.

The idea is I transit from Safe to Warm, and need no additional protection - no mask, no gloves. Then I get to the shops, and everything is Hot - starting with the trolley handle (if only because the cleaning station is generally inside the store, and the trolleys are parked outside) and continuing with the produce. So Hot protocol applies: gloves, mask, touch nothing you don't have to, and then use only your right (gloved) hand. Use the cleaning station, (right hand again), and shopping list / contactless payment is left hand operation only to preserve it's "warm at best" status. Produce goes in trolley using right hand only, bags are touched only by left hand (since they came from Safe Zone). Contactless payment using phone in left hand.
Shopping goes in boot - all of it, it's Hot goods and the cabin is Warm.
Mask goes in boot, gloves are binned at shops.
Transit from Warm to Safe with Hot means handwashing, dried on a new set of teatowels that are then bagged and disinfected using this wash aid: Dettol fabric antibac[^]* more gloves and Isopropyl Alcohol (normally used for cleaning the 3D printer, but 99.99% IA kills everything very quickly, and leaves no residue on food packaging). Bags, mask can be recycled after 3 days if not separately decontaminated.

That was the regime before we got it, so I've continued it after just in case. All the research I've done - and I've had a lot of motivation to do this pretty well - says that you can't catch it twice, then "double infections" were probably bad data / dead virus / poor testing conditions. But ... this is a new virus, and it mutates, as they all do. The common cold is a disease caused by up to 200 different viruses: rhinovirus, coronavirus, influenza virus, adenoviruses orthopneumovirus, enteroviruses, human parainfluenza viruses, and human metapneumovirus and people catch that every damn year! Laugh | :laugh: If I can prevent a mutated version getting us, then when Herself returns to work, I can help prevent us infecting the residents with another version.

And despite this, we got it ... from Herself's work where insufficient PPE was provided despite changing from street clothes to work and back again, gloves, aprons, full face screen, ... and one breathable mask that had to be hand washed every day ... one tiny chink in the armour is all it needs, one trace that someone else left by touch on a door handle several hours ago ...



* Normally, I use this for Herself's uniforms when they have D&V in the home since they can't be boil-washed and we haven'y had that get us since she started working there over ten years ago. But it says on the bottle "Kills 99.99% of viruses and bacteria, laboratory tested on Influenza H1 N1; RSV; Coronavirus; Herpes Simplex Type 1" which doesn't mention Covid-19 but it probably helps: 15 minute soak kills the lot in theory, so 30 minutes soak, followed by as hot a wash as the teatowels can stand.
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