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Yesterday I learnt that more than half the ethanol producers in the USA have closed and ceased operations on a temporary basis, due to covid19. As far as I know, they produce ethanol by fermentation. Fermentation produces large quantities of carbon dioxide as a byproduct, which the ethanol producers sell, mostly to brewers, to add fizz to their beers.
Now the brewers are complaining of a shortage of CO2, that is hampering the production of beers! This is getting serious!  Are people going to start hoarding beer now? I noticed on Thursday that almost every customer coming out of the grocery store had beer in the trolley. 
What a terrible place is a pub with no beer!:
The Dubliners- A Pub With No Beer - YouTube[^]
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
modified 19-Apr-20 8:51am.
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Maybe you need to update your .sig!
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I'm shocked ... pass me the Chardonnay please !
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Im shocked!
Pass me the Montrachet.
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To tell the truth, I'm more of a red wine drinker but my wife bought a big "bag in a box" of Chardonnay by accident. As the box had a purple color she assumed that it was red wine
But as it is nice sunny weather now, a cool glass of Chardonnay is palatable ...
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Quote: I'm more of a red wine drinker
My kind of man! 
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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RickZeeland wrote: To tell the truth, I'm more of a red wine drinker
I used to be as well. But I have moved past box wines.
In all seriousity, I'm drinking as much white as red wine nowadays. I have learned that good white whines usually have better price/value than red ones.
Try a bottle of Egon Müller, Keller or Robert Weil to a well made Schnitzel with white asparagus some time and you will understand what I mean.
And everyone should have a bottle of Chateau d'Yquem on their bucket list.
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That sounds like good advice, I saw a documentary about the Rhine river recently and of course Rheinwein was mentioned. It was known as a quality wine in the past, but then they spoilt it by mass producing it and adding sugar. Now it will be hard to get rid of the imago of "cheap rubbish"
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You'll be lucky if any pubs survive this to serve no beer ... I don't think this will end for a long time: expect the whole summer to be under lockdown. Especially if Trump does manage to lift restrictions, and the US infection rate goes through the roof. Other countries will look at it and just clamp down harder, as will the US ...
Not - I hasten to add - a political comment on Trumps mental prowess or lack thereof: I am not starting that discussion!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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As long as there's Whiskey in the Jar, I'm fine! 
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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Here in Norway we are currently considering a temporary change in the laws:
Pubs and restaurants are closed down, but to give them a chance to survive, they are allowed to prepare takeaway food that you order by phone and come to pick up at an agree time. But they have huge tanks of beer, that cannot stand for more than a few months. So now the authorities are considering them to provide takeaway beer as well, so they won't have to throw thousands of liters of beer into the river.
I have no idea about how they expect the takeaway beer to be delivered - certainly not in open half liter glasses. Speciality beers are bottled, but those are not the problem, the problem is the tank of two thousand liters of standard beer. Will they suggest some "BYOB" - "Bring Your Own Bucket" to have it filled up?
I honestly do not believe that this proposed law change will be passed, not even as a temporary law. But if is is, I am very curious to see how it will be carried through in practice.
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Quote: I am very curious to see how it will be carried through in practice
I am curious as well! Keep us posted!
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Member 7989122 wrote: I have no idea about how they expect the takeaway beer to be delivered
Are you seriously suggesting that a thirsty Norwegian cannot find a way to cart away a beer or three? 
Just a couple of ideas for BYOB:
- Use the 1 liter water bottles that are fine for day trips (I mean the reusable kind that attach to your belt, not the so-called "mineral water")
- For larger quantities, you can get 5 liter Styrofoam-insulated containers. It used to be that every house in Israel had a few of these for use in day trips in the summer (when you need LOTS of water!)
I'm sure that one or other of these ideas could be made to work in your neck of the woods.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I thought Budweiser was a drain cleaner (not a very good one  ).
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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It is just a homeopathic version of lager
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A couple decades ago, a standard joke among beer lovers in Europe went:
- What's the similarity between making love in a canoe and American beer?
- Both are f**ing close to water.
Since then, there has been a microbrewery movement, which has resulted in some excellent beers (some of it good enough to be shipped over the pond for us here in Norway, although at premium prices.)
Has this had any influence on the mainstream, "industrial" beers? Or are they essentially unchanged from what they were twenty and thirty years ago?
I am guessing that USA is similar to Norway: The microbreweries catch a lot of attention, but their share of the total beer market is not that many percent, by volume. Or have the micros succeeded in making any significant inroads in the overall beer market?
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 Here in Oz booze production is considered an essential service. It was threatened with restrictions but the uproar was so loud they withdrew them.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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It seems the people Down Under have their priorities sorted out! 
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