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5-Apr-20 22:33

One common symptom of infection is loss of smell: so a good fart at the breakfast table tests the whole family in one fell swoop - and no waiting for the result!

OriginalGriff5-Apr-20 22:50

OriginalGriff

5-Apr-20 22:50

Clumpco wrote:
One common symptom of infection is loss of smell

So ... no smell means the farter is infected?

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Clumpco5-Apr-20 22:54

5-Apr-20 22:54

Le <groan> (to quote Pépé le Pew)

So old that I did my first coding in octal via switches on a DEC PDP 8

Chris Maunder6-Apr-20 2:43

Chris Maunder

6-Apr-20 2:43

You guys are so classy.

cheers
Chris Maunder

Clumpco6-Apr-20 3:11

6-Apr-20 3:11

Chris Maunder wrote:
You guys are so classy.

Gassy?

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W∴ Balboos, GHB6-Apr-20 3:11

W∴ Balboos, GHB

6-Apr-20 3:11

I must agree with you on that point.

After all - OP refers to a "good fart" - and so far as I know, there's no such thing as a good fart.

I suggest you ask around to check me on this point - which adds additional meaning to keeping a safe social distance.

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Mycroft Holmes6-Apr-20 13:03

Mycroft Holmes

6-Apr-20 13:03

W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote:
and so far as I know, there's no such thing as a good fart.

That all depends on perspective, the farter generally enjoys it whereas the fartee tends to want to leave the room.

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W∴ Balboos, GHB7-Apr-20 1:01

W∴ Balboos, GHB

7-Apr-20 1:01

I think I see our communications problem on this.

There's fart as a verb and fart as an noun. I refer only to the known - which affects all involved.
You're thinking of the verb form. By way of an example.

Someone comes into your office and with an angelic look on their face exclaims how they just took a really good sh*t. They are not really describing the object, now swimming towards the sea, as 'good' in any real sense, but the act of evacuation and consequential relief that was 'good'.

However - this is an understandable error.

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Re: WSO CCC OTD 2020-04-06

dandy726-Apr-20 6:32

dandy72

6-Apr-20 6:32

Kill two birds with one stone: If you get no reaction at all, your family might also have gone deaf.

WSO CCC OTD 2020-04-06

OriginalGriff5-Apr-20 22:17

OriginalGriff

5-Apr-20 22:17

A scratch around game? (8)

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Clumpco6-Apr-20 0:09

Re: WSO CCC OTD 2020-04-06 - we have a winner!

6-Apr-20 0:09

SCRABBLE (tm)

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OriginalGriff6-Apr-20 0:20

OriginalGriff

6-Apr-20 0:20

And you are up tomorrow! Thumbs Up | :thumbsup:

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Re: WSO CCC OTD 2020-04-06 - we have a winner!

Clumpco6-Apr-20 0:34

A working-from-home problem

6-Apr-20 0:34

I'll set my alarm this time!

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Chris C-B5-Apr-20 22:01

5-Apr-20 22:01

I act as a part-time system manager for a client in an essential business, and one of my duties is to manage a fairly complex backup regime. I visit several times each week to change the backup media, but due to COVID 19 have changed the regime and route the backups to an external USB drive on an old XP machine outside the computer room.

I remote into the system every morning to ensure there are good backups, and then soft-eject the drive. During the day somebody swaps the disk in a rotation of three disks, and takes it off-site.

The problem is what if the disk is not swapped? I usually check every evening that a backup disk is plugged in, but if it isn't I can't reconnect the disk that is still connected to the XP machine, and there is no Shutdown/Restart available when remoting from Win10 to XP.

Any ideas how to reconnect a soft-ejected drive to an XP system without unplugging/replugging or turning off/turning on again? My client has told me that while he might turn a blind eye to the ritual disembowelment of the culprit, he didn't think it would actually help solve the problem.

Clumpco5-Apr-20 22:05

5-Apr-20 22:05

If I remember correctly you can issue a "shutdown /r" from and administrator cmd console to restart XP.

Addendum: You can also disable and re-enable the corresponding USB Mass Storage Device in the device manager. This will re-detect and mount the disk.

Chris C-B5-Apr-20 22:41

5-Apr-20 22:41

How the devil did I forget that? I have built this complex system to synchronize backups of unknown length from three different servers to a single remote drive without timing conflicts - and completely forgot about shutdown /r.

Time for Confucius “Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.”

Thanks very much. I have just tested on a Win7 machine here and it reconnects just fine!

Clumpco5-Apr-20 22:49

5-Apr-20 22:49

Don't forget that in remote sessions to Win 7 (and XP IIRC) you can select "Windows Security" in the right pane of the start menu, you will then see the shutdown and restart options.

Nelek5-Apr-20 23:24

Nelek

5-Apr-20 23:24

Do you check if the disk swapped in is a new one?
I mean, that could give you a hint too, if you use different systen names for the disks.
BACKUP_01
BACKUP_02
BACKUP_03

At least you could know if the one being connected is the right one before overwriting.

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Chris C-B6-Apr-20 0:29

6-Apr-20 0:29

Actually, they are labelled A, B, C, and as each disk is large enough to hold three full backups, I never wipe the disk, just zap the oldest group. Each backup file is identified by server name and date, so little chance of error.

Nelek6-Apr-20 2:12

Nelek

6-Apr-20 2:12

Chris C-B wrote:
so little chance of error.

You are relying in another employee to work crrectly, aren't you? Roll eyes | :rolleyes:

M.D.V.

Chris C-B6-Apr-20 3:24

6-Apr-20 3:24

Nelek wrote:
You are relying in another employee to work crrectly, aren't you?

Nope!

All done by batch files - which is why I was so horrified that I had forgotten the shutdown /r command. I guess after the complexities of the earlier stuff I was looking for something more complicated than that. Blush | :O

Nelek6-Apr-20 23:41

Nelek

6-Apr-20 23:41

Chris C-B wrote:
During the day somebody swaps the disk in a rotation of three disks, and takes it off-site.

Chris C-B wrote:
Nelek wrote:
You are relying in another employee to work crrectly, aren't you?
Nope!

Anyways... nevermind, it was just a joke about "the problem with computers is usually between the monitor and the chair" (another form to say human factor).

No need to continue this Wink | ;)

M.D.V.

Sander Rossel5-Apr-20 23:43

Sander Rossel

5-Apr-20 23:43

Chris C-B wrote:
The problem is what if the disk is not swapped?

Probably nothing.
I get that backups are very important and you're really glad you have them when you need them, but when was the last time you needed them?
Not making backups for a month probably won't matter.
Now that's a risk you have to be willing to take because the moment you skip a backup stuff breaks and you need the damn thing (I bet there's a law for that).

I see you already have a solution so you should really keep on doing what you do, and if you didn't you should still be looking for a solution.
Just saying it might be more important for the higher ups just so you can tell them you have this strict backup regime than that it is to actually have all those backups.

It's like insurance, you hope you won't need it and you usually don't, but when you do you really do Laugh | :laugh:

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Chris C-B6-Apr-20 0:52

6-Apr-20 0:52

Actually, I have had to do three restores over the years, two of them for ransomware attacks, and one due to a manager 'just moving a file' which zapped half the files on the disk. I never did figure out how he managed it.

Also, I once did a complete zap and rebuild of one of the servers because the one of the annual auditors (from one of the 'big five' and who should have known better) plugged a virus-ridden USB stick into the server despite firm instructions to the contrary. I actually bought a new raid array and restored everything from scratch. The old disks were then recycled as backup drives. When it comes to sanitizing a system, I use what might be called a COVID 19 approach. $Shucks | :-\$

Before you start thinking 'what a clusterelephant' I should point out that I have been working for this client continuously since 2003, and wrote significant chunks of their software at that time, which are still in use today. On average, they have had less than one hour downtime per annum, over the seventeen years.