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Sander Rossel wrote: And everyone who says otherwise is FAKE NEWS!
Yes, they're very bad people. They should be nice to you, if they want you to be nice to them -- quid-pro-quo walls WORK!
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Hysteria doesn't become you.
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It doesn't seem to me that I'm the hysterical one.
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Sorry, Guv, [doffs cap] I forgot abaht yer innate superiority over me.
OK, then since it's not hysteria, and you genuinely, logically, and rationally believe that a few stockholders losing 10% of their unearned money (because everything else will be "business as usual" within a month or two) will result in hospital closures and massive amounts of death, how about we have a little bet on the side?
I'll go ten-thousand euros that not one hospital will close in the West because of the coronavirus.
Is that OK, or do you want to up the ante? I mean, it's not a hysterical rant that hospitals will close, is it? So you can't lose, and I can afford to. Works for everyone.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Sorry, Guv, [doffs cap] I forgot abaht yer innate superiority over me.
Now you're being ridiculous again. You could push that kind of nonsense on the soapbox.
I don't give a sh*t about stock holders, but when companies are starting to go bankrupt a lot of people will lose their jobs. They won't be paying taxes anymore, but rather will be needing unemployment benefits instead. This is all money that could be used much better.
No I don't think there will be any physical hospitals closed. But when the economic realities are catching up with us, there will not be any excess money for any advanced medicines or equipment anymore.
That's what I meant with that we cannot pay for our hospitals any more. The buildings will certainly still be there, the personnel will mostly be there as well, but the care will be of lesser quality while we cannot pay for as much or as expensive medicine, or medical machinery.
A small reality check for you: Check how many people that is dying every year from cancer or cardiovascular deceases.
On a different note, I'm sure we will see social distancing for a very long time forward, and certain types of businesses will simply have to be sacrificed for now. For example tourism and restaurants.
But a shutdown of society that lasts for an extended time, will throw us into a downward spiral with a lot worse consequences.
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And, as the guy in Argentina says, the economy can adapt and recover, but we can't bring people back to life.
Perhaps if it were members of your family who were at risk you would see a perspective other than "Being dead is better than being out of work for a while -- because if you're broke or out of work, things will never, ever get better, but if you're dead, things can only improve for you!"
How many people, when faced with a "Give me everything you own or I'll blow your brains out!" situation would choose the latter option?
Would you? Would you want your mother to?
So your scare stories about the all-important economy are indeed worthy of ridicule, and with me, you're often likely to get exactly what you ask for.
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My mother is dead from cancer.
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[*sigh*]
If that's what you consider to be a civilised response, it appears that it is not I who belongs in the soapbox.
Both my parents are dead, BTW, and both suffered long before they departed -- one with Parkinson's, and one with senile dementia.
But I still would have answered the question "Would you want your mother to?" in a civilised manner, without trying to use her death as a tool in what is merely a difference of opinion, but which you seem to consider to be an argument.
You'll note that I have, since you wish to play it that way, now given up on trying to meet your responses with good humour.
My next step is to stop responding to you altogether, because I like the Lounge as it is, and don't want it being turned into a soapbox clone. Starting now.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: You'll note that I have, since you wish to play it that way, now given up on trying to meet your responses with good humour.
Then I don't want to see your bad humour.
Mark_Wallace wrote: My next step is to stop responding to you altogether, because I like the Lounge as it is, and don't want it being turned into a soapbox clone. Starting now.
Yes, let's agree on that.
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Why are you debating Mark? Just ignore him.
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Mark does troll all the time.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: in a civilised manner,
You are rarely civilized. You may think you are, but it often comes across very differently.
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ZurdoDev wrote: You are rarely civilized. You may think you are, but it often comes across very differently.
No, I'm just not a politics-obsessed US alt-right-winger as you are, and you appear to have a hard time understanding that not everything that's said is bluster and insults, because that's the common parlance of the US alt-right.
Just try to comprehend that not all of us talk bluster and insults all the time. Some of us have a sense of humour, and can actually say things with genuine smiles on our faces (not the kind of smile that bad people smile when they see people suffer).
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Mark_Wallace wrote: I'm just not a politics-obsessed US alt-right-winger as you are
No offence, but you're an idiot. 
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Reported for trolling and abuse
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Enough.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Mark_Wallace wrote: believe that a few stockholders losing 10% of their unearned money
Coming to you live from CNN, it's Mark Wallace with Fake News. 
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ZurdoDev wrote: Coming to you live from CNN, it's Mark Wallace with Fake News.
No, it's called "exaggeration", because that's how normal people talk to each other -- you know, friendly banter, rather than spiteful invective.
See? It's not all bluster and insults when normal people talk to each other; only when fanatics get involved.
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Troll.
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Try reading more than just the headline.
Cosmetic surgeons are laying off staff, because nose jobs aren't the flavour of the month.
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Troll
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No.
What you are doing is trolling. You are going through everything I post, and trying to find something to argue about. That is trolling.
Responding to your fake news with a correction is not trolling, and should not have been necessary, because you should not have posted fake news.
Actually, the news itself isn't fake, but the way you used it was: the people you claim to be "healthcare workers" who have been laid off are the staff of "hospitals" for elective (AKA cosmetic) surgery.
I know that you alt-right wallahs in the US don't care much about facts, because you place more value in bluster and insults, but, once again, your focus on arguing, rather than having civilised discussions, led you down the wrong path.
If you continue to "stalk" me just to cause arguments, I will rightly report the posts as abusive.
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Troll
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I honestly do not see the link between "think about the one we love" and playing youtube music video. Not really.
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