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today's shows are all about cgi/visual effects (and perhaps some second+ rate one-day-wonder singer)
couple of decades back it was all about sound (dolby/thx blah blah rah rah blow you out of your seat)
was a couple of decades before that when all they had to rely on was the story
...about then was also a mostly fresh generation of actors so if the story didn't sell the movie flopped.
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2. something that is considered harmful, destructive, or evil.
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And you could actually hear what the actors were saying. I blame Marlon Brando, who introduced the art of mumbling.
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It highlights the difference between people do it because they're artistic and those who are political or capitalistic.
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That reminds me... I'm going to listen to this one[^] for the coming 1:45 hours 
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Thanks for the link, it's years since I first heard it on the radio. 
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what I don't get is the animation back then is still so much better - more fluid, smoother -apart from background less looping, more 'natural' movement - than today's computer assisted anime crap.
another thing I like in the old cartoons is they used real well trained musicians (orchestral instruments) for the background music. they really were super skilled and so well timed. (they recorded against a showing often all in 1 shot start-to-end after just a couple of practice rounds.)
pestilence [ pes-tl-uh ns ] noun
1. a deadly or virulent epidemic disease. especially bubonic plague.
2. something that is considered harmful, destructive, or evil.
Synonyms: pest, plague, people
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This, from 1937, is just beyond amazing[^].
Now - that damn anime, enema, whatever they call it - no real animation at all - just flashing lights and Japanese fantasy girls (i.e., young school-girl innuendo). And, of course, don't forget the other flavor now available - 30 minute commercials to sell their toy-turned-cartoon.
As a little kid I watched the (then old) cartoons, in B&W, of the endless cats and mice fighting. And who can forget (or resist?) Betty Boop? !
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W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote: Now - that damn anime, enema, whatever they call it - no real animation at all - just flashing lights and Japanese fantasy girls
Not all of them. You probably won't like it, and probably won't consider it to be anime, but the eighth episode of this series has one of the most powerful film experiences I've ever witnessed. There were a couple events before that episode that had already made me think the series was one of the greatest shows I've ever seen: Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World - Crunchyroll
I don't know if the site is safe without adblock or some other measures, so if it isn't, sorry.
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W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote: And, of course, don't forget the other flavor now available - 30 minute commercials to sell their toy-turned-cartoon.
Um, now [^] available? That's over 35 years ago.
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I was not saying it's all new - the drop in quality has been progressing for years.
Look at what capabilities were, for movie length and short cartoons, 80 years ago and more!
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Nice! Thanks!
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I have learned to accept that the world isn't "worse" today, it is just different.
To younger people today, the Bugs Bunny cartoons is just packed with "special effect", silly and completely illogical story lines, and makes you say that this is "funny"? I don't get it...
I had that experience when DVD manufacturers got spare capacity to publish classic movies, like the old shows with my dad's favorite comedian. in my childhood I remember him laughing like crazy over Leif Juster (he was a strictly Norwegian comedian; I'd be surprised if the name rings any bell in you). So I bought this 3-disc set and sat down for a laugh. Throughout the shows, I was nodding: Sure, that is dad's humor. Yeah, he would have liked this. But… It isn't my humor. Every now and then, I smile, and that's it.
My dad never understood what's so funny about the comedians I enjoy. Or what is so great about the epic movies that I enjoy - you've got the same problem there: My dad grew up when boys had heroes, and epics were about heroes. My favorite epics are about other issues.
Now another generation has taken over, and they relate to my humor and the epics I enjoy the same way I viewed those of my dad. I don't understand the value of what is made today, just like dad never saw any value in what my generation produced. Yet, he wasn't the grumpy old man complaining that everything was just so much better when he was young. He just told about how it was, without condemning the present.
So I go in his footsteps. It is different today, and I do not enjoy a lot of what is made today. Fair enough. It makes it much easier to accept that I am not going to be around forever. As more and more makes no sense to me, I am quite happy that I don't have to live with it forever, but can quietly slip out the back door one day.
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A very thoughtful post.
But now heroes are back in fashion. Superhero movies. Watched by grown men.  
I guess your thoughtfulness hasn't quite rubbed off on me yet. 
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Greg Utas wrote: But now heroes are back in fashion. Superhero movies. Watched by grown men.
You know, there is one absolutely wonderful thing about middle age. I don't give a flying Fellini ![Elephant | [mastadon]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/elephant.gif) what anyone else thinks of how I dress, who my friends are (and aren't), and how I spend my time.
I dress to be comfortable. When I'm out running and it's warm enough, the shirt comes off and I let my freak flab fly.
Some of my friends are men, some are women. Some are straight, and some not. Some live by faith, others by reason. Some I see in person almost every day, others I've not met IRL and may not ever.
I read science fiction and some fantasy. I listen to smooth jazz. I really like the Marvel and DC movies.
The sad thing is, I imagine you're thinking this is me being defensive. If you are, you're wrong.
Software Zen: delete this;
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I don't think you're being defensive, because our attitudes are similar. But sometimes I get opinionated about things that are just personal taste.
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Well said! I always laugh when I hear someone say that kids these days are... lazy, ignorant, have no taste in music/ clothes, etc.
I always like to add - “ ...said every person over 50 throughout the history of mankind. “
If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.
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Sokrates said: The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers
I guess he was over fifty then. 
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This!
Also, not everything we liked as kids has aged well.
We make stuff a lot better in our heads than it was in reality.
And not all cartoons they make nowadays are garbage either.
Rick & Morty, Adventure Time, Gravity Falls, Steven Universe...
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Cartoons turned to cr@p in the 60s, when companies like Hanna-Barbera realised that they could charge just as much for cheap garbage as other companies were getting for doing the job properly. If it weren't for the occasional better-than-mediocre writing, HB would be the most prolific bad entertainment producer in history.
A good indicator of how it crumbled is in the long-running Tom & Jerry series. Early ones were a joy to behold, but they gradually declined until they hit the cartoon-decline equivalent of Hooke's Law, and immediately turned into garbage. And now they're CGI, produced by people with no art in their bones.
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Cartoons in the fifties and before were made to be shown at cinemas.
From the sixties and onward they were mass produced for TV.
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Disclaimer: Unpopular opinion
A lot of coders spend a lot of lines of code dividing things into tiny steps which they then make whole classes for and abstract everything to the Nth degree, often even when the abstraction is not helpful.
Back when I was a green coder, I used to write OO code somewhat like this. Then C++ changed me. I stopped relying on objects so much. This bled over into other languages.
Now my code is about expedience. For example, I created a little HTTP server that does the request/response cycle in a single method, with two support structs instead of a dozen classes.
My code is smaller, faster, easy enough to understand if you aren't a beginner and overall better for it.
It's getting to the point where I think OO is an ill conceived paradigm - and not even because it's Broken As Designed (it's not) but because it gets way overused to the point where the dev world may have been better off with something else.
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Like everything else involving programming, you use the right tool for the job. Fortunately, we can build our own tools for this job without needing special equipment or unreasonable amounts of electricity, and we don't leave a lot of wasted material laying around.
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But also, with the failure rate of software I'm glad we don't build bridges and skyscrapers.
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honey the codewitch wrote: But also, with the failure rate of software I'm glad we don't build bridges and skyscrapers.
The % of "so-called" programmers is much, much, much bigger than the % of architechts.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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also CS is only somewhat engineering. It's half voodoo.
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