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I have a good friend who works as a barrister in Leeds.
The stories he's told me implies that the US should be very very afraid of taking over.
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Remember that most warnings signs are there because someone has actually tried to do what the sign's warning you about.
Think about that. 
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You may think of that when you consider moral laws, laws that makes "unnatural" acts illegal.
If it really was the case, that the acts were unnatural, people wouldn't act that way, there wouldn't be any need to make it illegal. Just let people behave naturally! Yet, scores of nations have found a need to curb the way people naturally behave, labeling it "unnatural" behaviour.
In scores of cultures, people do behave in ways that we (un)naturally behave ... and it turns out not to cause any problem at all, in those cultures. Then we arrive with our claims that those acts are really unnatural and immoral and we must throw people in the pit for doing what has been perfectly normal, with no devastating effects, at least not until we appeared on the scene.
Today, the Norwegian media are full of messages from the authorities: There is no reason whatsoever for you to stock up a lot of food in your home! Food stores will remain open, in spite of Corona. We repeat: Do not stock up food. ... So before the day is over, the food stores will be scraped empty of all at least all canned and dried food, and a lot of other stuff as well. Any sign "Do not touch this sign" is an invitation to touch it. I think signs and moral laws have something in common: Warning against it makes it a lot more tempting to do it.
The purpose of laughable signs (and laws and whatever) is not primarily to keep people from doing silly things, but so that you can say: Don't blame me for them doing it! I had put up a sign!
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Member 7989122 wrote: The purpose of laughable signs (and laws and whatever) is not primarily to keep people from doing silly things, but so that you can say: Don't blame me for them doing it! I had put up a sign!
That is the bottom line: Cover your ass. Rest of the world be damned.
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I'll give you a quote Quote: People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.
That is true, I've seen it to many times in my life. Technically they are not idiots of stupid, but it is hard to tell when they follow the first fool to speak up.
I've never been a sheep, but most people are. We just have to learn to live with it. Unfortunately the majority rules, even if they are sheep.
INTP
"Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence." - Edsger Dijkstra
"I have never been lost, but I will admit to being confused for several weeks. " - Daniel Boone
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One of the posters made by our HR, reads "Avoid contact with the infected people".
Felt like asking "Sure, what LED color do they glow on their heads?" 
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Truth....
Here in Atlanta, we've shutdown an entire county full of schools while they "clean" and "disinfect". Apparently, a teacher came to work already feeling ill, and by the afternoon was hauled away in an ambulance. And this person teaches... What officials may not realize is that as soon as the children come back to school, the germs and virises will be back. They already know that there is almost no impact on the young (Who is getting sick? A look at coronavirus risk by age, gender, and more[^]).
Then there is the guy who felt ill, had himself tested and got on a plane where he received the test results. Some days, my head hurts from the stupidity.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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Thank you for forwarding the advice you got from the Internet. I will take it to heed. I was misinformed to think that burying a dead chicken in the yard would ward it off. 
On a more serious note, we are somewhat hunkered down only surfacing for required life support things.
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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theoldfool wrote: I was misinformed to think that burying a dead chicken in the yard would ward it off.
Of course a burying dead chicken won't work; you're supposed to make chicken soup from it!
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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That is for after you get it.
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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Actually, bury it anywhere you can get away with it - but just bury it before it starts to rot and attract flies (and then French Gourmets)
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Years ago I got the okay from a doctor to bring a friend back from hospital to her house for the weekend (bringing her back on Sunday evening). When I walked in, the nurse insisted I wear one of those bunny suits to enter her room.
I pointed out I was here to get her out, and that neither the patient or myself were going to be wearing one over the weekend. Apparently it was okay for me to do whatever I want at home, so long as I was following policy while under her watch.
I pointed out if they truly believed anyone was contagious (either myself or the patient), the patient shouldn't be let out in the first place.
That day I learned logic doesn't work with someone who'd rather blindly follow policies.
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The last week(s) we have seen a number of "fake" web sites telling how to cure or treat Corona, giving advice that has no medical foundation whatsoever.
But then: Even the health authorities are using the Corona as a (bad) excuse for pushing their pet ideas. E.g. for a few weeks, they have had the opportunity to stress again and again that we should use antibac regularly, desinfect our hands with alcohol, ... But Corona isn't a bacteria infection! It is a virus that is not killed by antibac/alcohol!
If you insist on defending this outcry of "disinfect your entire body ever few hours, or you will die!", you can make up some super-marginal excuses. E.g. if you suffer from other other diseases, a Corona infection on top of it may be more dangerous. So regular body desinfection may keep you from catching other diseases. That was true a year ago, it will be true a year from now. It does not affect Corona at all. But health authorities are constantly striving to desinfect our entire life, trying to extinguish any sort of bacteria that is not completely under our control. To them, Corona is a golden opportunity to introduce regular disinfection, to make it a daily habit (or preferably: many times a day) to use plenty of antibac / alcohol.
Antibiotics have given us bacteria resistant to antibiotics. There is as growing worry about this, yet health authorities constantly push "...But in this special case, heavy use of antibiotica must be accepted to stop the disease!" The problem is that there are so many "special cases" that they are well on their way to make the non-special-cases into the real special cases...
Using Corona as an excuse to sterilize society of bacteria is in the same group as using "unlimited" antibiotics (in hospitals, farming or whatever). The responsible should be sentenced to prison for pretending that washing your hands with alcohol will stop an airborne(!) virus infection.
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I think part of the problem is that we live in a one-liner culture. "Just tell me what to do, don't waste time on why I should do it!"
The statement would be perfectly fine if it was followed by five (reasonable, sensible) bullet points reminding you of how to avoing such exposure. But five bullet points is too much reading, by 2020 standards.
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@Chris-Maunder
As above, I can't be here any more, even a fun poke can't be handled by the whiners here. Used to be a fun place I could argue with the Yanks (and everyone else) and they had a sense of humour and also an ability to express themselves and support an arguement.
More than 20 years after I joined, it is just too tedious. I hate coming here to see what egg shells have been laid before me so some snowflake can cry and be offended.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Hey, sleep on it.
Or, more euphemistically, sleep with it.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Maybe we should offer him some cheese with that whine?
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Michael Martin wrote: can't be handled by the whiners here
You literally just created 2 new threads specifically to complain about other people. Is that not the definition of whining?
I feel like what you are really bothered about is that you like to come here to argue, but people just aren't providing enough fuel to meet those needs anymore (no more soapbox). Go and join Facebook or Linkedin, people love arguing over there, you will fit right in, and the beauty is nobody will care enough about your opinion to ban you over there, so you can keep going as much as you like.
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Nailed it! 
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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Come on, a lot of us appreciate your whimsical posts !
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RickZeeland wrote: Come on, a lot of us appreciate your whimsical posts whining !
FTFY
pestilence [ pes-tl-uh ns ] noun
1. a deadly or virulent epidemic disease. especially bubonic plague.
2. something that is considered harmful, destructive, or evil.
Synonyms: pest, plague, people
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You never have understood the differences between the soapbox and the lounge. 
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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Who's acting like a snowflake, now?
You and I have traded jabs for over 12 years now. Why so mad bro?
Edit: on a serious note, this virus is affecting the entire planet. It's everyone's problem, not just yours or mine.
Cheers. 
It's much easier to enjoy the favor of both friend and foe, and not give a damn who's who. -- Lon Milo DuQuette
modified 12-Mar-20 8:28am.
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