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Reading this thread, I'm pretty sure we're doomed...  
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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Dare I say . . . wipe that tear away?
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you may dare!
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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Sunday morning. All the time in the world to have sume fun with the computer. And let's see what's on TV. No Adam West today. Not even William Shatner. It's Airwolf. Ok, why not? The Bell Triple Two[^] always was a sight.
Just in time to see Airwolf saving a civilian Huey from another Vietnam style Huey. Boom, splash one bad Huey. But the good Huey went into a dive and both pilots were desperately pulling back the cyclic sticks and ignoring the collective control entirely.
Guys, you do know what kind of aircraft you are flying? Pulling back the stick may work with an airplane, with a whirlybird you are in for a stunt of which I'm not sure a huey would even survive.
So what would happen? The helicopter would do a backflip, Salto Mortale backwards, and I'm quite certain that a Huey's semirigid rotor head was not constructed to deal with the forces that come into play when flying upside down. What an impressive stunt, if they had really tried that and the stuntmen had survived it.
There is a reason why there are not many pilots around who have the training and the license to do such things: Flying Bulls Bo-105 @ TANNKOSH 2011 - YouTube[^]
This one makes it actually look as if it was slow and easy. 
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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As they say in Hebrew, "the paper suffers everything".
This is why any half-decent series or film will employ consultants - to ensure that what they are producing isn't complete male bovine excrement.
(They often don't listen to the consultants in order to tell a more "dramatic" story, but that's not the consultants' fault)
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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That's how it goes!
Writer: "So we want the heli to do a backflip."
Consultant: "Yeah, that's not going to work."
Writer: "But it looks hella cool though! We doing this!"
Consultant: 
Fans: "Hell yeah, that helicopter was hella cool!  "
I mean, I'm watching an action movie, not the news or a documentary.
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Sure, but I don't just watch silly movies. It's too late to charge batteries and get out on the field, but I'm going to practice some backflips right now on the simulator. How hard can it be? 
My first loops involuntarily became backflips because I pulled back the cyclic way too hard. How about doing half a backflip and then roll back to a normal position while flying forward? Timing is everything, but on the simulator I can crash as many helicopters as I like. Where is the USB cable?
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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CodeWraith wrote: How about doing half a backflip and then roll back to a normal position while flying forward?
Isn't that also known as an Immelmann turn?
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Very similar. And I did it. The part with still flying forward did not quite work. Not very elegant, but no crash.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Sander Rossel wrote: I mean, I'm watching an action movie, not the news or a documentary.
Keep in mind that news nowadays aren't any more real than most movies...
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Although I am partly responsible for the themed CCC - I prefer the original format - thought peeps ?
"We can't stop here - this is bat country" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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I'd agree - sort of, the themed version can be fun.
But ... the theme has to be thought out, "harry Potter spell names" just didn't work.
How about we go back to the original, but the first week of each month* (or first two weeks) we go themed?
* Starts on "first Monday of the month"
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Fine by me - the problem with the theme is, It prevents otherwise good cryptic solvers from answering if they don't know the theme. The Harry potter one was a prime example and in my opinion poorly constructed ( no offence intended chaps ).
"We can't stop here - this is bat country" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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... on awakening, today, had a strange little internal psychodrama as I stumbled outside the house to make my am cuppa of soy-milk, palm tree sugar, coffee, coconut cream, butter, and infant formula for 3+ year-olds ... I was on-stage, playing the role of a pseudo-wise-man in a play which was a tragedy, directed, by mistake, as a comedy. I turned toward an audience of faces blurred out by the foot-lights, and intoned the following aside:
The cheapest profound thoughts are those we borrow from others.
The most expensive profound thoughts are those we refuse to think for ourselves.
The most profound thoughts, that cost us nothing, surround us, but we are too ... And I "hung" there, a wide-eyed rabbit frozen in the glare of onrushing ontological headlights ... waiting for the last words to finish the soliloquy ...
... do you know what needed to be said to complete the last line ?
If you know, are you allowed to tell it to me ?
best, Bill
«One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali
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I can only make it with corrections:
The most profound thoughts, that cost us only trust, surround us, but we are too afraid to ask
changed mind on the comma
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interesting, your words remind me of the classic Kabbalistic tradition refrain: "trust nothing, question everything."
given my (and homo saps) innate abilities to persist in various forms of denial, "trust" has many dimensions ? perhaps my reaction to "only trust" ... as diminishing the cost ... reflects the great importance i place in "trust" in this, later, phase of my life.
i wonder if i had said "insights," rather than "thoughts" ... ?
thanks for your thoughts !
«One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali
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… superficial to perceive them.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Hi Daniel, interesting to think about what "superficial" is, and its relation to perception ... and sensory input. Perhaps you are familiar with Mack and Rock's "inattentional blindness," Quote: there seems to be no conscious perception without attention
and the famous "invisible gorilla" research [^].
Can you be "both" superficial and "aware" ? superficial and "attentive" ?
Gets complex since "conscious" and "attention" are such multi-faceted terms: [^]Quote: ... Whether perception requires awareness is one of the basic questions that have been discussed for many years in the field of psychology (Eriksen et al., 1960;Holender et al., 1986).Williams (1938)reported that subliminal stimuli are effective at evoking a correct response.Merikle et al. (2001)reviewed research in which awareness was assessed with either objective measures of forced-choice discriminations or measures based on verbalizations of subjective conscious experiences. This group concluded that stimuli are perceived even when observers are unaware of the stimuli. Awareness is synonymous with consciousness
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«One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali
modified 22-Sep-19 23:46pm.
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Nothing that academic. I was just thinking of Winston Churchill's dictum that "Man will often stumble over the Truth, but he will usually pick himself up, and go right on".
This has at least two meanings. I chose the less cynical (in the modern sense).
As an aside, I am not usually impressed by psychological research. Research psychologists are studying extremely variable and complex phenomena (i. e. human beings), but they purport to draw conclusions from laughably small sample sizes (often less than one hundred). Were abuse of statistics a crime, I suspect that many of them would be behind bars.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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With complete respect for your distrust of a lot of academic psychological research ... a distrust I share ... I think to discard the whole lot is to "throw the baby out with the bath." There is a lot of research "grounded" in the reality of the structure of the brain, and the sense organs, that is evocative, and rigorous. In the last ten years there has been a virtual revolution in neuropsychology.
If "awareness/consciousness" is an "elephant in a dark room blind wise men are feeling up," we are at least getting better approximations of how the elephant behaves, and the outlines of its shape.
cheers, Bill
«One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali
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BillWoodruff wrote: do you know what needed to be said to complete the last line ?
No, I don't know...
But what came to me while reading was:BillWoodruff wrote: The most profound thoughts, that cost us nothing, surround us, but we are too ... blind to see them
Edit: I should have read the answers first, I almost repeated Daniel's.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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I don't know the words either, and I suspect that at different times, in different contexts, I might choose words that might contradict other words I had chosen.
I'd say what came to you, is just as valid as what might come to me
William Blake's famous words:Quote: “If the doors of perception were cleansed every thing would appear to man as it is, Infinite. For man has closed himself up, till he sees all things thro' narrow chinks of his cavern.”
can be read as a (mystical) insight into the paradox that our senses that "bring us" the perception of the world also set the limits of "normal" goal-seeking, purposeful, consciousness, and yet, we are also creatures who constantly imagine realities that are beyond the sensory.
Quote: How do you know but ev'ry Bird that cuts the airy way,
Is an immense world of delight, clos'd by your senses five?
«One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali
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TL:DR
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Should express disgust in overtime (5)
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