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Mike Dimmick30-Jul-03 3:36

30-Jul-03 3:36

ADO has the disadvantage of being a wrapper for Visual Basic and scripting languages. In order to support this, it does a lot of copying into small temporary objects.

Using the underlying OLE DB allows you to supply your own buffers for data rows, and also to use more advanced operations such as delayed updates (accumulating an update in memory, then performing the whole update in one network operation).

You may want to look into the OLE DB consumer templates. A helpful resource is the book OLE DB Consumer Templates: A Programmers Guide[^].

You should definitely check whether the time is being taken in generating the resultset or in passing the resultset across the connection. If more time is taken in fetching the resultset, you might want to consider using the adAsyncFetch option to the Command's Execute method, which will fetch up to the CacheSize before returning, then fetch the rest of the rows asynchronously. If you try to access a row not yet received, the operation will block until that row has been received.

Use only the cursors you need for an operation. If you're just reading a resultset, specify adLockReadOnly for the lock type, and adOpenForwardOnly for the cursor type. This allows SQL Server to simply squirt the rows down your connection (it's often called a firehose cursor for this reason).

For SQL Server, you should definitely get used to entering sample queries into Query Analyzer and looking at the Execution Plan that results. This can help you reformulate your queries to work better. The SQL Profiler tool can help you examine a workload and determine if you should add - or remove! - some indexes to improve performance.

For more on optimising SQL Server queries, see Inside SQL Server 2000[^].

Re: ADO Performance

RChin30-Jul-03 22:34

RChin

30-Jul-03 22:34

Thanks for your reply Mike.
I've already adapted certain techniques, like the firehose cursor, but using the ADO interface.
I will definitely have a look at your list of suggested books.

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How to get the columns except one

Exceter29-Jul-03 18:45

Exceter

29-Jul-03 18:45

is it possible to get the data of table except for one column?
that is, if I have a table with column names ID, Name, Address, ...
How can I get the data of all columns except for ID column?

and, how to get the column names(not the data) ?
for table names I found the following:
Select * from sysobjects where [type] in ('U')

Re: How to get the columns except one

Mike Dimmick30-Jul-03 3:07

Mike Dimmick

30-Jul-03 3:07

Exceter wrote:
is it possible to get the data of table except for one column?
that is, if I have a table with column names ID, Name, Address, ...
How can I get the data of all columns except for ID column?

Only by specifying all the columns. Note that using the * operator can be a bit costly, because the server has to enumerate the columns - it's usually better to specify them all anyway.

and, how to get the column names(not the data) ?
for table names I found the following:
Select * from sysobjects where [type] in ('U')

See http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/03/08/CodeGeneration/default.aspx[^] for more details.

Re: How to get the columns except one

Alexander Kojevnikov30-Jul-03 5:15

Alexander Kojevnikov

30-Jul-03 5:15

Mike Dimmick wrote:
How can I get the data of all columns except for ID column?

Just want to add that it's a bad practice to use SELECT *. Think what will happen with your code if you rename some of your table columns or reorder them.

Alexandre Kojevnikov
MCAD charter member
Leuven, Belgium

Re: How to get the columns except one

Philip Patrick31-Jul-03 2:38

Philip Patrick

31-Jul-03 2:38

Alexandre Kojevnikov wrote:
Think what will happen with your code if you rename some of your table columns or reorder them.

So what? If you'll specify all columns in SELECT, you will still need to change your code, then what's the matter? Mike actually pointed the right issue about performance of "*"

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Re: How to get the columns except one

Alexander Kojevnikov31-Jul-03 4:16

Alexander Kojevnikov

31-Jul-03 4:16

Philip Patrick wrote:
you will still need to change your code

Exactly. But if you don't use SELECT * you will get errors in your SQL query and will have one more possibility to think about consequences of column renaming and adapt the client code appropriately.

With SELECT * you might forget about adapting the client code. And in many cases you won't even see compile-time errors.

If you are just reordering columns, you won't have to change anything.

Performance is also an important issue of course.

Alexandre Kojevnikov
MCAD charter member
Leuven, Belgium

Detecting MDAC version

Thesisus29-Jul-03 8:04

Thesisus

29-Jul-03 8:04

Does anyone know how to detect what MDAC version a server is running?

Re: Detecting MDAC version

Bo Hunter29-Jul-03 10:32

Bo Hunter

29-Jul-03 10:32

RegistryKey key = Registry.LocalMachine.OpenSubKey( @"SOFTWARE\Microsoft\DataAccess" );
string version = key.GetValue( "FullInstallVer", "0.0.0.0" ) as string;
key.Close();

All this kind of stuff is on MSDN.

Bo Hunter

Re: Detecting MDAC version

Mike Dimmick29-Jul-03 13:36

Mike Dimmick

29-Jul-03 13:36

Programmatically, or for diagnostic purposes?

For diagnostics, use the MDAC Component Checker[^].

The snapshots included with the tool can be somewhat misleading - I don't think I've ever had any system installation, including a completely clean install, report no errors with this tool. But it'll make a fairly good identification.

indexof - wishing for

Megan Forbes29-Jul-03 5:07

Megan Forbes

29-Jul-03 5:07

I have a varchar(30) variable which holds data I want, a '$' and then some more data I want. Basically, I'm trying to cheat and return 2 dates from one function, and this seemed one way to do it.

My problem is this - I want to get the two dates in the sp this string is returned to. I was thinking of finding the position of the '$', then the characters before it will be the first date, and the characters between it and the end of the string will be the second date. The problem is, I'm having trouble getting the position of the '$'.

Any ideas? Smile | :)

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Re: indexof - wishing for

jeff_martin29-Jul-03 5:16

jeff_martin

29-Jul-03 5:16

--first date
SUBSTRING(1, CHARINDEX('$', variablename))

--second date
SUBSTRING(CHARINDEX('$', variablename) + 1, LEN(variablename) - CHARINDEX('$', variablename))

You may have to adjust by adding/subtracting 1 to get proper results

Re: indexof - wishing for

Mike Dimmick29-Jul-03 13:47

Mike Dimmick

29-Jul-03 13:47

Thought of using a table-valued function?

CREATE FUNCTION dbo.fnGetTwoDates
(
   @searchCriteria varchar(30)
)
RETURNS @twoDates TABLE
   (
      FirstDate     datetime,
      SecondDate    datetime
   )
AS
   BEGIN
 
   INSERT INTO @twoDates
   SELECT
      /* Perform selection here */
   
   RETURN

   END
 
Usage:
SELECT FirstDate, SecondDate
FROM dbo.fnGetTwoDates( 'criteria' )

Now, if only we could pass tables INTO stored procedures as parameters - I'm stuck with using temporary tables with fixed names in order to modularise some very large (>1000 line) procedures.

What's wrong with Query String;

Bo Hunter28-Jul-03 18:55

Bo Hunter

28-Jul-03 18:55

SELECT [ID], Title, NodeType, ParentID, [Language], Description FROM SourceCode WHERE Title LIKE '%Title%' OR Code LIKE '%Title%' AND Language = 1 OR Language = 2 OR Language = 3 OR Language = 4 OR Language = 5 AND NodeType = 1 OR NodeType = 2 OR NodeType = 3 OR NodeType = 4 OR NodeType = 5 OR NodeType = 6 AND ParentID = 4 OR ParentID = 6

Do the numbers have to be quoted?
Any Suggestions?

Thank You
Bo Hunter

Re: What's wrong with Query String;

Alexander Kojevnikov28-Jul-03 23:20

Alexander Kojevnikov

28-Jul-03 23:20

AND operator has a higher priority than OR. You might want to use parentheses:

SELECT [ID], Title, NodeType, ParentID, [Language], Description 
FROM SourceCode 
WHERE (Title LIKE '%Title%' OR Code LIKE '%Title%') 
AND (Language = 1 OR Language = 2 OR Language = 3 OR Language = 4 OR Language = 5)
AND (NodeType = 1 OR NodeType = 2 OR NodeType = 3 OR NodeType = 4 
OR NodeType = 5 OR NodeType = 6)
AND (ParentID = 4 OR ParentID = 6)

HTH,

Alexandre Kojevnikov
MCAD charter member
Leuven, Belgium

Re: What's wrong with Query String;

Jon Hulatt29-Jul-03 1:43

Jon Hulatt

29-Jul-03 1:43

Furthermore, you really ought to use "IN":-

SELECT [ID], Title, NodeType, ParentID, [Language], Description 
FROM SourceCode (nolock)
WHERE (Title LIKE '%Title%' OR Code LIKE '%Title%') 
AND Language IN (1,2,3,4,5)
AND NodeType IN (1,2,3,4,5,6)
AND ParentID IN (4,6)

#include <beer.h>

Re: What's wrong with Query String;

Bo Hunter29-Jul-03 10:21

Bo Hunter

29-Jul-03 10:21

Will the IN operator work in Access?
I forgot to mention that.
And also some of the idetifiers like Language
has to be exscaped. Does that also have to be
exscaped in OleDbParameter like so,
OleDbParameter param = new OleDbParameter( "[Language]", bla bla );
Is this correct?

Thank You
Bo Hunter

Re: What's wrong with Query String;

Alexander Kojevnikov29-Jul-03 22:07

Alexander Kojevnikov

29-Jul-03 22:07

Bo Hunter wrote:
Will the IN operator work in Access?

Yep, it will.

Bo Hunter wrote:
Does that also have to be
exscaped in OleDbParameter

Probably it has to be escaped. This won't hurt anyway Wink | ;)

Alexandre Kojevnikov
MCAD charter member
Leuven, Belgium

Read-only Access DB Problem

-- NA --28-Jul-03 2:41

-- NA --

28-Jul-03 2:41

Hi all,

I'm having the following problem: my site can access the database perfectly, using an ODBC-less connection, but when I try and insert or edit records I get the error "Cannot update. Database or object is read-only." I have changed all permissions in IIS, and in Windows Explorer but I can't seem to get it working. Suggestions please? Big Grin | :-D

The connection string I'm using:

(driver: Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0)

var sConnectionString = "Provider=" + sDBDriver + "; ";<br />
sConnectionString += "Data Source=" + Server.MapPath("../../bin/db/db.mdb");

Paul

Tiny problem with said member has been corrected.
Chris Maunder

modified 18-Jul-18 11:59am.

Re: Read-only Access DB Problem

-- NA --28-Jul-03 5:56

-- NA --

28-Jul-03 5:56

Fixed

Paul Wink | ;)

Tiny problem with said member has been corrected.
Chris Maunder

modified 18-Jul-18 11:59am.

Re: Read-only Access DB Problem

Roger Wright28-Jul-03 7:26

Roger Wright

28-Jul-03 7:26

How?

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Re: Read-only Access DB Problem

-- NA --28-Jul-03 7:27

-- NA --

28-Jul-03 7:27

I had to give IUSR_<computername> read and write access to the directory containing the Access DB.

HTH Big Grin | :-D

Paul

Tiny problem with said member has been corrected.
Chris Maunder

modified 18-Jul-18 11:59am.

Re: Read-only Access DB Problem

Roger Wright28-Jul-03 7:48

Roger Wright

28-Jul-03 7:48

Ah, of course... I've run into similar fun and games simply hosting files on IIS for public access. I assumed that the Everyone group included IUSR_... but never bothered to look. I still haven't, in fact, but found empirically that adding IUSR access to hosted files suddenly made them accessible from the outside world.

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Re: Read-only Access DB Problem

-- NA --28-Jul-03 7:51

-- NA --

28-Jul-03 7:51

Yeah, It's really irritating. Took me a long time, and lots of troubleshooting before I fixed it. I repeated the "Oh, that's it!! Jig | [Dance]

" process about 3 times before actually getting it to work Mad | :mad:

Oh well, at least it's working now. I should write on my forehead, "check IUSR_ permissions!" because it's caused me so much grief Poke tongue | ;-P

Paul

Tiny problem with said member has been corrected.
Chris Maunder

modified 18-Jul-18 11:59am.

Firehose

THEMYTH27-Jul-03 22:19

THEMYTH

27-Jul-03 22:19

Hello

I have a problem while trying to edit a record on SQL Server 2000 (Sp 3).

The problem occures, w hen I click to "Return all rows" in the context menu of the table, and I tried to uptade a record .
It occures an error. The error message says : "Transaction cannot start while in firehose mode"

I have researched a little about firehorse, but could not find any useful information.

I look forward to hearing from you

thanks

Best Regards
Emre YAZICI

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