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with the move toward webassembly and so much back and forth communication between client and server i wonder how long it will be before the web goes binary? didn't google already make an HTTP/2 proposal for a binary protocol?
i mean, we seem to be headed that way, and I'd say it's past due.
It's really interesting that there's things like "asm.js"/webassembly and JVM and the CLI that run on so many devices, making this all possible.
But i also wonder if webassembly/asm.js is just going to become its own VM
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Hmmm,
honey the codewitch wrote: But i also wonder if webassembly/asm.js is just going to become its own VM
I've worked on multiple teams at Microsoft in the operating systems group and I've been honored to contribute two system services that shipped with Windows 10. Like many of the members here on codeproject I have my hobby operating system that I've been writing for over a decade. What I find interesting is how humans seem to engineer operating systems like onions... if you start at the BIOS up to the HAL to ring0 then through the syscall gates to ring3 the operating system already looked like an onion... but we didn't stop there... we added additional layers on top of that.
When I see Windows 95 or Windows 2000 being booted with Webassembly... those operating systems are literally running up on the thirteenth floor.
Best Wishes,
-David Delaune
Scientiæ de conservata veritate.
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Randor wrote: When I see Windows 95 or Windows 2000 being booted with Webassembly... those operating systems are literally running up on the thirteenth floor.
A machine within a machine within a machine ...
"it's turtles all the way down."
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Didn't the DEC guys have 5 rings to work with?
I mean, why did you think 3 was sufficient?
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Hi Tim,
These "rings" are mostly conceptual in nature with ring0 always at the operating system kernel. It gets even more complicated when you consider the modern UEFI BIOS. For example with the hypervisor enabled the hyperviser becomes "ring -1" and when it's disabled the BIOS becomes "ring -1".
Tim Deveaux wrote: I mean, why did you think 3 was sufficient?
I would make the argument that Microsoft Windows doesn't have 3 protection rings... I intentionally mentioned the HAL because it's technically sitting above the kernel and on top of the hardware layer. These protection ring concepts are subjective. If you asked three kernel developers you'd probably get three different answers.
Best Wishes,
-David Delaune
Scientiæ de conservata veritate.
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0 to 3 would be four rings.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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ONE RING TO RULE THEM ALL
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honey the codewitch wrote: But i also wonder if webassembly/asm.js is just going to become its own VM
Isn't that the point? Of WA, not of asm.js.
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overall, but right now it's just a hack on top of javascript like asm.js isn't it?
i could be out of date, as I don't do much web dev (client or server) these days. (never did much client stuff)
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I wouldn't really put it like that, as I understand it the point of WASM was specifically to get away from piling things on top of JS and forever being limited by JS limitations (for example asm.js lacks 64bit integers and would have a bad time adding such a thing). There is an option to emulate WASM with an emulator written in JS, but that wasn't meant to be The Way it Works, that's just a thing so you could start using it before first-class WASM support materialized.
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harold aptroot wrote: There is an option to emulate WASM with an emulator written in JS, but that wasn't meant to be The Way it Works, that's just a thing so you could start using it before first-class WASM support materialized.
I see. That must be what I was thinking of as I only looked at it when it first hit the internet. Like I said, I don't do a lot of web front end/web client development, but I found it interesting.
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"Just give me a state table and an unlimited series of cells and I'm fiiiine..." -- Spicoli
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Netflix had Serenity, the finale to the canceled Firefly series.
I had seen neither, but I heard good things.
So I got Firefly and watched it last week.
I was just getting ready to see Serenity and... NETFLIX REMOVED IT JUST LAST WEEK! 
I even remember showing it to a friend on Wednesday, when she said "I can rent Serenity" (apparently a movie with the same name came out this year).
For some reason I can get Firefly in blu-ray without any problems, but Serenity is a bit more difficult... 
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Yea, I didn't know they remove movies.. damn! 
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I'm guessing their licenses to run certain content expire.
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makes sense! 
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Yeah, they do.
They add and remove movies regularly.
For example, not that Disney gets its own streaming service all Disney movies are being pulled from Netflix.
It's all licensing I guess.
You also don't want old movies to be in the way of new movies, so it's best to keep a limited selection.
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You know someone is a video pirate if they have a copy of serenity.
that is hard to find.
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I found it on blu-ray second hand somewhere 
I just hope they ship as promised 
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oh good. I'm not a firefly fan but a lot of my friends have been so i understand.
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Neither am I.
I think it's the most overrated series ever 
It's fun, very entertaining, it's also good, but I'm missing story, drama, plot twists, element of surprise, all that.
You can watch the episodes in any order, or skip a few, and not feel like you missed anything.
I guess that was the norm in 2002, but I expect a bit more in 2019.
It gets a 9 on IMDb, but I'd probably give it an 8 and really only because the episodes are so wel made.
Perhaps it would be more accurate to rate the episodes with 8's and 9's, but the series as a whole a 7 or something.
I still want to see the movie though.
Maybe there's some story, drama, plot twists and element of surprise after all
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Sander Rossel wrote: I think it's the most overrated series ever
Oh I'm glad you said it so I didn't have to.
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I had the exact opposite with Cowboy Bebop.
It get's an 8.9 on IMDb and it's regarded as a classic.
The episodes are not very thrilling and sometimes even outright boring.
But it does one thing right, it sets an atmosphere using great images and music.
The last few episodes are pretty good too.
So while most episodes are a 6 or 7 at best, I'd still rate the series as a whole with a 9
Now what do Firefly and Captain Bebop have in common?
They're both space westerns
I have to get me some more of those.
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*singing*
"Some people call me a space cowboy..."
great. now I've got Tom Petty in my head.
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