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The only thing I really miss about "real programming" is that this web stuff is stateless. Get used to the appropriate songs and dances to transmit data between client and server took a while. When desperate enough to use a global, it turns out be cross between "applications" (i.e., sessions) unless one goes out of their way to stop it - and often don't go away unless deliberately destroyed or the browser is closed.
But, one gets used to four or five languages on a page.
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Life is a program programmed by GOD...
ciao
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Hi All,
The 'Widget' I am testing is reliant on a tower of Babel software, which in turn is generated from a mixture of Government Documentation which is particularly unreadable. It is for a safety critical system. Me being me goes into tester mode, picking up all things I can. There is an issue which is known to slow down the device. This can lead to interesting results such as LEDs for Channel 1 & 2 being shown on LEDs 3 & 4 on the device taking a longish time to set. It can be easy as I just have shown the software lead an non-issue due to the time delay and the LED's 3 & 4 switching times, I know I am being too picky but as I said 'Safety Critical'... ...am I an idiot for getting out of hand?
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just remember there's:
#1 safety, as in protection from harm, and
#2 safety as in protection from being sued.
90% of the time for the management [following up on advice from the legals/compliance], you know bottom line and so on, #2 matters more - ass covered. #1 is just a byproduct.
think about it, how does a sign (or picture for multi-language) saying "watch your step" actually enhance safety? sure, most people will see it and take care, so yes, the safety (#1) is improved (not 100%) but only as a byproduct that sign ensures safety #2 is 100% covered - you fall, too bad, no case.
yeah the safety LEDs do light up, sure not instant but it's there and meets req. up to the operator to ensure those LED's stay off before proceeding.
and that's also why there's some pretty stupid signs, indicators, sirens etc out there - what's a few dollars in parts/printing compared to the potential lawsuits from not having them.
warning: do not operate the microwave if the door is not fully closed.
- you'd have to bypass/have broken a couple or more safety switches to manage that feat, cold happen in an old unit, and so just in case, despite the "safey" switches, that warning saves potentially millions ... of dollars., and maybe (but far far less likely) some old lady's liver.
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Compared to some systems I have worked on this is not too safety critical, translation the previous high integrity stuff I have worked on has been Biohazard safety for Porton Down (cue questions like 'Could the Stand really happen?') and Radar systems for air traffic control. That background makes me question everything that I can, and somethings I can't... The worst I have seen with Microwaves is one that works with a hole in the door! 
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lopatir wrote: you fall, too bad, no case.
Unless you trip over the sign 
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you raise a good point. maybe the system should be considered "lawsuit critical"
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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lopatir wrote: and that's also why there's some pretty stupid signs, indicators, sirens etc out there - what's a few dollars in parts/printing compared to the potential lawsuits from not having them.
Plus some typos and things get quite amusing. According to the instructions of a well known manufacturer of model kits, some decals on a 1967 Vietnam Huey should read 'use XXXX viation fuel" or "fuel dick drain". They will most probably not get dragged to court over that.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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yeah, tough taking overseas companies to court.
I'm sure though (to sell overseas) they will still have to include lots of safety instructions too, such as: "baby not eating the small piece they can choking onto your hazard."
back in the days before internet my friends and I requested some part/computer catalogs from Asia (Taiwan was by far the best), laughed so damn hard it really did bring tears to your eyes.
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Will Richmond be watching the lights?
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No, it's embedded...also are we talking Richmond USA or Richmond UK (if its the UK not yet!)
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glennPattonWork wrote: Richmond USA
and which Richmond at that? Richmond Indiana is about 50 miles from me.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Don't let the pointy hairs make you second guess your gut when it comes to safety. Always go with your gut. My $0.02
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Too true, I have stood my ground and endured flak for it. Turns out the issue is one that could have lead to deaths in the past, I feel I have to a little more cowboy in checking!
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glennPattonWork wrote:
m I an idiot for getting out of hand?
What you do with your hand in private is none of my interest.
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr.PhD P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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Fair enough.  if you read it out of contex...
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So... Here goes nothing.
I'm looking for an animated (hand drawn?) music video with a weird 70's sci-fi theme.
I'm not sure if the video was from that time or if it's newer, but made to look old.
From what I remember it was somewhat dark and surrealistic (besides the sci-fi).
The video somewhat stuck with me, the artist and song name not so much.
I was at a sci-fi exposition not so long ago and I've been thinking about the video ever since.
I guess someone once posted it as a reply to the SOTW, but there are quite a few of those so it's somewhat hard to find.
Must've been two or three years ago I guess...
Of course I can't remember who posted it in the first place, that would've made things a lot easier...
Was it you, @David-ONeil (you're my first guess since you're into weird stuff (and that's a compliment  ))?
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Nope, that isn't it.
It was more animated and the music was more 70's too 
Still not bad though.
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Nope, already checked some lists, but none seem to have it (including this one).
Whoever posted it on CP made sure he had the most unknown and obscure music video he could find 
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Check your email records? If it was a reply, then you'd have got an email - and it should be fairly easy to search those for Lounge + SOTW + link posts.
Or The "Search this forum" box above?
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Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I delete emails from the Lounge.
When I try to find old SOTWs using the search box I just end up on the first page of the Lounge...
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You call yourself a developer, and you deliberately throw away information!
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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It's mostly drivel anyway
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