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So I think you should all revolt and sever ties with the US, like with all of Europe!
If you promise to play nice, we might even let you be a protectoratre, like Puerto Rico.
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr.PhD P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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We'll be part of America by then 
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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Who's yet to open the book on this?
This is one such topics where the whole world starts doing something about, but I keep it safe in my todo list.
Just a quick question from the dummies perspective.
1. Will functional programming make all the OOAD concepts obsolete or it can get along well with OOAD?
2. What's your take? You like it?
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for mine it's something everyone talks about as the new sliced bread,
and later all but disappears into some niche, like lisp or prolog, or even forth.
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Hey, forth had its place  . I had gainful employment for over a year working in forth for the Anchorage AK International airport on their vehicle gate security systems. Forth did what it was originally designed for (device and instrument control) reasonably well.
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, navigate a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects! - Lazarus Long
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Was Forth a fourth generation language?
Can you imagine interpreting a job requirement that says what is needed is, "Go, Forth and Javascript".
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Forogar wrote: "Go, Forth and Javascript"
Why does my brain read that as "Go ![Elephant | [mastadon]](https://codeproject.freetls.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/elephant.gif) yourself"?
Software Zen: delete this;
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Actually, Forth did what it was designed for reasonably well.
Unlike MUMPS, which was developed by (hold your breath) doctors! And the VA STILL uses it. One of the only 'languages' that allowed you write a complete program in a string variable (using user input) and execute it immediately. One nice thing was there were only 25 reserved words, each one starting with a different letter (Z was for anything that did not fit) and a program was allowed use just the first letter for the reserved word.
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, navigate a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects! - Lazarus Long
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MUMPS is an old, procedural language and I was not thrilled to have to learn it in 2001. However, the database Cache is BLAZING fast and works very well for storing Medical data. Fortunately, I no longer have to code MUMPS, but I still respect the speed.
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Forth was supposed to be a fourth generation programming language but the computer that it was developed on would only allow 5 character file names.
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I did a large project in Forth back in the '80s. Never again.
Forth is a write only language
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Not if you do proper decomposition and give your words readable names. I worked in forth for many years and my old code is still very readable today. Also, good commenting helps!
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I've heard the "write-only" complaint about Perl and APL, too ...
I've seen horrible Perl; but also have seen huge Perl apps that were a cakewalk to understand.
APL worked very well at giving you the whole algorithm in a concise picture.
Ask Morgan-Stanley how "K works, for people who are under serious coding pressure.
I'd say it's a matter of developer community and praxis, without which every language can be a bomb.
Language (syntax) requirements never prevent all the bad things you can do.
Check out Linus Torvalds' comments on why not C++, referenced tangentially here (nevermind the flamebait)
medium.com/codeiq/object-oriented-programming...
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1. As matter of fact, OOAD concepts and functional programming are both dated. Lately there's some interest in the features of functional programming, that's true.
2. I like it but I don't fully understand it. That is often I am not able to see how my job would be easier using functional programming.
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CPallini wrote: I like it but I don't fully understand it.
Some eggheads pretend to understand it and insist that the benefits outweigh any inconveniences. Never do they say anything about the downsides or, god forbid, admit that they have no clue.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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I do Functional2 programming. Not only do I write functions but they also function.
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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But do they do the function for which they were designed? There has to be a set procedure, and some method in your madness.
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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OriginalGriff wrote: But do they do the function for which they were designed?
Hey, give me a break. I'm only one man. 
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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Who say things are functioning anyway ?
I'd rather be phishing!
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Functional programming is loved mainly by eggheads, like my boss who has a degree in mathmatics. He also loves VB, so take that as a reference however you like.
Long ago, I was tortured with LITHP and Scheme by egghead professors. Twice. That's enough for the rest of my life and I can easily live with not ever having to see that stuff again. Maybe aliens from Ceti Alpha love it, but I also suspect it's the reason why Ceti Alpha Six exploded.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Quote: degree in mathmatics. He also loves VB
That's OK. Mathmaticians, Madmaticians can actually love VB. On the other hand, proper Mathematicians can only distaste it.
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So you say that there are several distinct sorts of eggheads?
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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I see you don't like mathematics people. 
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Nah, I just don't want to be assimilated and become an egghead myself.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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I'm sure Star Fleet used Functional Programming and that's why they thought Ceti Alpha Five was Six.
Just thinkin outloud. 
Jack of all trades, master of none, though often times better than master of one.
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