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The normal multi-platform mixture...

Mike (Prof. Chuck)14-Jul-19 23:59

Mike (Prof. Chuck)

14-Jul-19 23:59

...of a company bringing ios, android and windows to the customers.

so we have
C++ for low level (SIP)

C# for windows
Objective-C/Swift for iOS
Java/Kotlin for Android

And of course SQL for the database... Java | [Coffee]

Java | [Coffee]

what else?

Currently evaluating Xamarin and other platform-independent options... but honestly... I am not sure if they ever make it out of our playground repository Smile | :)

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modified 15-Jul-19 8:39am.

I still use MFC

TSchind14-Jul-19 23:11

14-Jul-19 23:11

Who use it too?

Re: I still use MFC

PIEBALDconsult15-Jul-19 2:59

15-Jul-19 2:59

Isn't that a framework, not a language?

Re: I still use MFC

den2k8815-Jul-19 3:25

15-Jul-19 3:25

It's a C++ framework so it kind of implies the language.

GCS d--(d+) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

Re: I still use MFC

PIEBALDconsult15-Jul-19 5:46

15-Jul-19 5:46

No it doesn't. I'm sure it can be used with other languages.

Re: I still use MFC

Rick York15-Jul-19 6:35

15-Jul-19 6:35

It is a C++ framework and it definitely can not be used with other languages.

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Re: I still use MFC

Nelek15-Jul-19 8:19

15-Jul-19 8:19

PIEBALDconsult wrote:
I'm sure it can be used with other languages.

I can't say it with certainty, but I would not bet anything on that afirmation

M.D.V.

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Re: I still use MFC

Dan Neely17-Jul-19 2:38

17-Jul-19 2:38

It's a C++ API making heavy use of compiler macros. While not impossible, its design would make any API wrappers massive fugly affairs (and MFC is fugly enough on its own).

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Re: I still use MFC

Stuart Dootson16-Jul-19 0:22

16-Jul-19 0:22

You don't want to use MFC with C++, never mind any other languages...

Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

Re: I still use MFC

PIEBALDconsult16-Jul-19 7:28

16-Jul-19 7:28

That's been my suspicion since the 90s. I Don't recall ever hearing anything good about it.

Re: I still use MFC

Rick Shaub16-Jul-19 10:30

16-Jul-19 10:30

I'm sure there's some sadist somewhere who has wrapped with C exports and built a DLL.

Re: I still use MFC

Ken Utting16-Jul-19 11:09

16-Jul-19 11:09

Perhaps you are thinking of MVC?

Re: I still use MFC

Rick York15-Jul-19 6:35

15-Jul-19 6:35

I still use it and one other guy here does too. We must be about the only three people who do.

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Re: I still use MFC

den2k8815-Jul-19 21:06

15-Jul-19 21:06

Well, in my former workplace we didn't beause they were too advanced, not joking.

Win32 API and VB6 were our main GUI tools.

GCS d--(d+) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

Re: I still use MFC

Rick York16-Jul-19 4:35

16-Jul-19 4:35

Yep, those certainly are advanced.

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Re: I still use MFC

Gary Wheeler16-Jul-19 1:29

16-Jul-19 1:29

Four - me too. We have an active product that got its start using VC6.

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Re: I still use MFC

Stuart Dootson16-Jul-19 5:20

16-Jul-19 5:20

Gary Wheeler wrote:
We have an active product that got its start using VC6

Us too - although it's gone through several other Visual Studio versions since then (2003, 2008, 2010 and now 2013, with a probable upgrade to 2017 or maybe 2019 in the next year).

And we've moved from MFC to Qt for new components, although we still have two from around 2005 that a) still use MFC, and b) still work fine (so there's no reason for updating them).

Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

Re: I still use MFC

Gary Wheeler16-Jul-19 7:48

16-Jul-19 7:48

We're still using VS2008 as our primary development tool, even though we purchased licenses for VS2015. Our workload is such that VS2019 will be obsolete before we have time to update. It's not even that we can't update the code. The problem is that there isn't sufficient time and people to do the regression test necessary.

And I know full well all of the smells that last statement gives rise to.

Software Zen: delete this;

Re: I still use MFC

Stuart Dootson16-Jul-19 21:23

16-Jul-19 21:23

I feel your pain - I'm just glad that as our product is itself a tool for testing embedded system software, it's particularly easy for us to have automated whole-system regression tests. We just run existing tests that our (internal to our company) customers have used & verify that all the output artifacts remain the same (except where we expect the changes, of course).

If it makes you feel any better, we're particularly bad with unit tests - we have a few, but probably less than 1% coverage. And when we started, we had no SCM, and then when we did get SCM, it was SourceSafe...

Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

Re: I still use MFC

Gary Wheeler17-Jul-19 1:28

17-Jul-19 1:28

Stuart Dootson wrote:
when we did get SCM, it was SourceSafe.

We're still using SourceSafe. Three or four years ago we thought about converting to git, and even had a pilot project moved to it. Between layoffs and shuffled responsibilities, it didn't happen Dead | X|

Dead | X|

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Re: I still use MFC

John Stewien15-Jul-19 22:43

15-Jul-19 22:43

I use it often. I find dynamic data exchange a bit verbose though these days.

Re: I still use MFC

Stuart Dootson16-Jul-19 0:23

16-Jul-19 0:23

We support a few legacy apps that use MFC. The sooner we can find an excuse to port them to Qt, the better...

Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

Re: I still use MFC

Rick York16-Jul-19 4:32

16-Jul-19 4:32

I have been looking at alternatives too. WxWidgets and Qt seem to be the main contenders right now.

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Re: I still use MFC

Stuart Dootson16-Jul-19 5:32

16-Jul-19 5:32

We've only got good things to say about Qt really - aside maybe from the size of the Qt distribution being rather large.

Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

Re: I still use MFC

Rick York16-Jul-19 6:52

16-Jul-19 6:52

Yes, I just downloaded the 2.4GB file yesterday. Yikes.

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